2009 TWS - NASA #3 - MEDIA THREAD

[Shortcutsleeping]

I'll start this party. 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xtjRSlZ2u0


Costas
cars and such...

[jeffburch]

jb's snapshots

Sprints, folder one

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_01#

Sprints, folder two

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_02#

Enduro folder

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/Enduro_Pics#

[mitchntx]

Watersports on Friday afternoon ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2KbH9EqAVA

[marshall_mosty]

Watersports on Friday afternoon ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2KbH9EqAVA

That's a classic already. Laughed my ass off again. :lol:

[AI#97]

Watersports on Friday afternoon ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2KbH9EqAVA

I predict this to be one of the top videos on youtube this year! 8)

[David Love AI27]

at this moment I look into my mirror and start screaming into my helmet... "WTF... THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO LEAVE A GAP"

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_02#5326587623548883666

[AllZWay]

Hey Jeff Wirtz.... It looks like it was Al that hit the cones... Not me. :P

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_02#5326587584126687042

[ShadowBolt]

Hey Jeff Wirtz.... It looks like it was Al that hit the cones... Not me. :P

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_02#5326587584126687042


contact



You know Clifton told me not to hit his cones. See how far away I stayed. Damn....some of you were asleep when the green fell!


JJ

[AllZWay]

[quote=AllZWay]
You know Clifton told me not to hit his cones. See how far away I stayed. Damn....some of you were asleep when the green fell!


JJ

I think you were using a sneaky pete. :P

[mitchntx]

Hey Jeff Wirtz.... It looks like it was Al that hit the cones... Not me. :P

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_02#5326587584126687042

He hit me first ... :roll:

27.11 Issuing Penalties

3. Any contact causing deviation, with no damage, but loss of a position: Reposition

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_02#5326587846927470306


27.12 Driver’s Points System

3. Any contact causing deviation, with no damage, but loss of a position: Three (3) points for the offender, one (1) point for the other driver.

[ShadowBolt]

[quote=AllZWay]
You know Clifton told me not to hit his cones. See how far away I stayed. Damn....some of you were asleep when the green fell!


JJ

I think you were using a sneaky pete. :P


I have to remember to get that re-filled before Hallett.


JJ

[Wirtz]

Hey Jeff Wirtz.... It looks like it was Al that hit the cones... Not me. :P

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_02#5326587584126687042

Ah, your right! The other red 4th gen is the one... I have video of one of those cones drilling my airdam and going flying most the way down the front straight.

[AllZWay]

jb's snapshots

Sprints, folder one

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_01#

Sprints, folder two

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_02#

Enduro folder

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/Enduro_Pics#

Really nice pictures here Jeff.

[Fbody383]

Watersports on Friday afternoon ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2KbH9EqAVA

Activity sponsored by Budweiser?

[michaelmosty]

http://picasaweb.google.com/TexasCMC3/2009_TWS_Sprints_Pics_01#5326582380212800946

Here is a pic. of the Porsche that ran me off down in T1. :x
If you look at the picture sequence, Glenn passed him on the straight, Rob passed him at the transition, and I got pushed off just before the "yellow box". The crazy thing is, is that he went off b/w T1 +2 at the same time.

I thought it was one of the red Porsche's that did it but I guess it was the red mist I saw. :)

[AllZWay]

Watersports on Friday afternoon ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2KbH9EqAVA

Activity sponsored by Budweiser?

Nope...just sheer boredom of two days of rain. It sure brought a few minutes of fun to watch. :lol:

[Fbody383]

Nope...just sheer boredom of two days of rain. It sure brought a few minutes of fun to watch. :lol:

Did hate to miss it... got about 8" at the house and the neighbors trampoline blew over the fence.

[ShadowBolt]

Nope...just sheer boredom of two days of rain. It sure brought a few minutes of fun to watch. :lol:

Did hate to miss it... got about 8" at the house and the neighbors trampoline blew over the fence.

We missed you Dave.

JJ

[Rob Liebbe]

There was a maroon Camaro there - isn't that the same as having him there?

[Alien]

Mostly of the enduro...

http://www.fototime.com/inv/E2C45DE9AF60F8B

crappy little camera warning.
click on pic for full size.

My favorite...
http://www.fototime.com/4A84B7BF76632F5/standard.jpg
fullsize... cones action!
http://www.fototime.com/4A84B7BF76632F5/orig.jpg

[Wirtz]

Watersports on Friday afternoon ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2KbH9EqAVA

And from the back of the tow boat / truck.

http://vimeo.com/4252033

Jeff

[Fbody383]

There was a maroon Camaro there - isn't that the same as having him there?

Nope.

And thanks Jerry; missing it has upped my desire to go to Hallet - hopefully with manly gears and less oversteer.

[Fbody383]

Watersports on Friday afternoon ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2KbH9EqAVA

And from the back of the tow boat / truck.

http://vimeo.com/4252033

Jeff

That cooler lid is missing the required stickers. DQ.

[Alien]

R2, Lap 1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1msLj7zvoE

One cone made it all the way to turn 4 :lol:

[Wirtz]

Those cones cost me a headlight bar and a right side air deflector. Took a bunch of paint off the nose cone, and I need to pound the top air deflector flat again.

http://vimeo.com/4275674

I thought I was done with cone damage when I stopped autocrossing :(

[Al Fernandez]

Sorry Jeff, that was my fault the cones were flying. :(

[ShadowBolt]

Sorry Jeff, that was my fault the cones were flying. :(


Were we not told not to run over Clifton's cones? A director at that.

JJ

[michaelmosty]

Great video Gary!
Pretty funny seeing a cone pop out from a car exiting T2. When you think everything has settled down another one pops up at T4. :lol:

[cobra132]

This is my first video post, we'll see if it works: www.vimeo.com/4281622

[Al Fernandez]

Awesome Frank! Love the G meter!!

Jerry, we were asked, not told :wink:

[Wirtz]

I thought coming over T8 and seeing the sun setting over the grandstands was cool.

[Fbody383]

This is my first video post, we'll see if it works: www.vimeo.com/4281622

Sweet... is the red bar the VU meter from the RUSH music?

How did you do the g-meter overlay?

[MikeP99Z]

I'll always accept a point-by :lol:

Glad it only took a hose and some towels to fit.

[cobra132]

Limelight baby.

[mitchntx]

I'll always accept a point-by :lol:

Glad it only took a hose and some towels to fit.

Oh, I remember that. That is when you said "I'm gonna pull this rookie's chain."

[AI#97]

I thought coming over T8 and seeing the sun setting over the grandstands was cool.

It sucked about 30-45 minutes before this vid! With the crap on the windshield, you couldn't see much coming into T8, T10 or 13,14,15 complex. Sort of Dangerous really.

Frank, I really liked the way your car sounded from the driver's seat. I might have to get me some of those mufflers. What kind were they?

[cobra132]

MagnaFlow part # MPE-11229 $77.95 at summit. FMR

[Todd Covini]

This is my first video post, we'll see if it works: www.vimeo.com/4281622

Bitchin' video for your first time out!
Love how the g-meter pulls over 1.00 quite a bit.

Now we gotta get all these raw vids over to Eric so he can continue working on the season recap...he's sitting on his hands right now!!! :oops:

(downloaded vids don't work...he needs the raw stuff.)

-=- T

[cobra132]

If we burn the raw vids to a cd will that work? FMR

[Todd Covini]

Only Eric can answer that.
I'm video illiterate.

[michaelmosty]

If we burn the raw vids to a cd will that work? FMR
That should work Frank. In the past I have edited my weekend videos down to about 10 minutes / event and then given a CD to Eric to work with.

[evarner]

Footage straight from the camera or SD card is most welcome. Anytime compression comes into play will affect the quality of the video when trying to do it in HD.

At this point, I will take whatever is available since I've received very little from the past two events in the way of material to work with for the year end video.

Once again, I know we are all busy with life in general and sometimes it's difficult to make time to work in other parts or projects. My offer still stands to pay for shipping (both ways) if you have raw media that you don't have time to process. I will send you a package in order for ya to drop in the stuff and once it's digested, will send it back (free of charge).

http://www.tek-racing.net/catbeg1.jpg

[AI#97]

Eric, since we didn't do anything for the 08' season, would you consider raw footage from 08' too? That's all I have...and the start of the AI championship race was pretty cool...along with a MONSTER pass on Mark "the big pussy" Luna...

Just asking because I have been too lazy to hook up the camera this year except for a test session of Michael in the Lemon!!! Ha Ha!!!

[ShadowBolt]

Race 2.

http://www.vimeo.com/4301230

Note the shift light. It used to be set-up at 5200 and I was lifting in the first race because I was thinking I was gonna blow the damn thing up. In R2 I watched it all the way down the front stretch and it was only hitting 5500. Maybe 5600 had I held it all the way down turn one. All this talk about my stroker motor.....wait until I post R1 and you see the Mitchster pull me like I'm tied to a post. On the lap after James pased me I lost the clutch cable downshifting into carousel. I had trouble the whole race as you can tell by the slow shifts. I really had trouble getting it to shift while trying to get around Frank when he gave me the point.

Note the standing yellow at start/finish.


JJ

[GlennCMC70]

Jerry, you did a great job on the start.
i haveto say, you have come a long ways. i see a few errors that are costing you a few seconds,but overall, nice race.

are yuo driving w/ one hand? i see a reflection of your hand in the glass that tells me you are keeping it on the shifter.

apex of 9 is too early. you should be hitting it at the end of the curb on the right. way past the yellow part.

[ShadowBolt]

Jerry, you did a great job on the start.
i haveto say, you have come a long ways. i see a few errors that are costing you a few seconds,but overall, nice race.

are yuo driving w/ one hand? i see a reflection of your hand in the glass that tells me you are keeping it on the shifter.

apex of 9 is too early. you should be hitting it at the end of the curb on the right. way past the yellow part.


Glenn,

Stop looking at the reflection. Yes one hand. Bad habit I can't brake. I do want all the help I can get to fix all other issues. I'm not sure the one handed deal will ever get fixed.


JJ

[Al Fernandez]

Bummer about that shifter cable Jerry. You were driving one hell of a race. :D

[NickV]

My full in-car vid of R2:
http://vimeo.com/4285040


Was hoping I got R3 when I was trying to catch NR in Glenn's car, but the camera didn't work for that one :(

Need to get my own camera setup before Hallet!

[Al Fernandez]

The battle of the 3rd gens!! Great job Nick, nice solid run.

Nice piruette @~10:00 there Gary! :lol:

[AI#97]

Glenn,

Stop looking at the reflection. Yes one hand. Bad habit I can't brake. I do want all the help I can get to fix all other issues. I'm not sure the one handed deal will ever get fixed.


JJ

Jerry, I had a similar issue only having one hand on the wheel. Use two hands on your daily every day. It trains you a little before you get to the track. I am also going to guess you might not be using the seat and harness to it's fullest and you are "bracing" yourself with the hand on the shifter...? The biggest difference in accurate driving for me was getting both hands on the wheel and anchoring my ass in the seat squarely. I have gotten to where my hands only leave the wheel to move the shifter...even on my daily!!! This will improve your chances immensely in car corrections and being able to wrestle the car on track.

[AI#97]

I want to see all the vids from Race 1 with the pack piling it into the T1 and the full inverted grid. :shock:

[BlueFirePony]

Glenn,

Stop looking at the reflection. Yes one hand. Bad habit I can't brake. I do want all the help I can get to fix all other issues. I'm not sure the one handed deal will ever get fixed.


JJ

Jerry, I had a similar issue only having one hand on the wheel. Use two hands on your daily every day. It trains you a little before you get to the track. I am also going to guess you might not be using the seat and harness to it's fullest and you are "bracing" yourself with the hand on the shifter...? The biggest difference in accurate driving for me was getting both hands on the wheel and anchoring my ass in the seat squarely. I have gotten to where my hands only leave the wheel to move the shifter...even on my daily!!! This will improve your chances immensely in car corrections and being able to wrestle the car on track.
Ditto! I worked on my braking technique at MSR-H a few years ago and I found this was a big reason why I was NOT effectively braking before.

[AllZWay]

Footage straight from the camera or SD card is most welcome. Anytime compression comes into play will affect the quality of the video when trying to do it in HD.


Eric,

If none of the video I have created is useful, let me know and I will send you the tapes or the camera and tapes if needed. I also have some raw footage that you might try first although I didn't use much compression to start with.

I would like you have what you need so just let me know.

James

[Rob Liebbe]

Eric,

Can you use DVD version of the video? Pinnacle has a direct to dvd feature and is palyable on a dvd player at excellent quality. Pinnacle also has an import dvd title feature, but I haven't played with that yet. Otherwise, I can make .avi files if needed.

[Fbody383]

I do want all the help I can get to fix all other issues. I'm not sure the one handed deal will ever get fixed.
JJ

Yes you will... racing looked awesome. Like Matt said, practice it all the time just like heel-toe. Practice looking around the car and building a mental picture of what's going on around you. Great accident avoidance skills and racing useful.

[AllZWay]

Here are some pictures my Mom took of the weekend, she was an official Team Law photographer for the Enduro, but she took a few others of the garages.

Eric and anyone else interested, I have full rez versions of any of these pictures available if someone would like a copy of one.

http://www.jpmotorsports.biz/images/twsapril2009/index.html

[Rob Liebbe]

http://www.jpmotorsports.biz/images/twsapril2009/_04190033.html

Always with the hand signals - at least he was nice to James' mom. :D

[Shortcutsleeping]

Was hoping I got R3 when I was trying to catch NR in Glenn's car, but the camera didn't work for that one :(

Oh the camera worked fine. That dumbass on your crew who started it hit the top button for 'night' and...well....yeah.

But pretty swell of that guy to loan you a cam and mount for the day! 8)

Costas
cars and such...

[Todd Covini]

Those Witchdoctor guys are a tight bunch, dontchathink? :wink:

[Todd Covini]

I'm just happy that the "Media Thread" (Good) is beating the "DQ Thread" (Bad) by just 2 replies. It's neck & neck with 4 pages each. I'm pullin' for the Media Thread.

Eric...you gettin' raw video showing up on your doorstep yet? :lol:

[jeffburch]

Not tight enough for their Guru to join them in the series though huh?
Come on PC!
Build that carb'd 350ci 3G!

jb

[evarner]

I'm just happy that the "Media Thread" (Good) is beating the "DQ Thread" (Bad) by just 2 replies. It's neck & neck with 4 pages each. I'm pullin' for the Media Thread.

Eric...you gettin' raw video showing up on your doorstep yet? :lol:

Reveived some video via FTP (Thanks!!!), but know there's much more video out there that would be great to get my hands on. :D

I've been processing ~2gig of video this morning.

Keep 'em coming!!

[evarner]

Eric,
Can you use DVD version of the video? Pinnacle has a direct to dvd feature and is palyable on a dvd player at excellent quality. Pinnacle also has an import dvd title feature, but I haven't played with that yet. Otherwise, I can make .avi files if needed.

Yes, that would be great! :D


Eric,

If none of the video I have created is useful, let me know and I will send you the tapes or the camera and tapes if needed. I also have some raw footage that you might try first although I didn't use much compression to start with.

I would like you to have what you need so just let me know.

James

PM me with what kind of tapes you have and/or if you need place to upload some vids. Thx! :D

[Rob Liebbe]

Sometimes the drama of an enduro is behind the scenes. See the link for David Love's headlight explanation.

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/Liebbe/Daves%20Headlight.wmv

Enjoy

[Rob Liebbe]

Team Landrum Enduro Finish

These guys are smart - When worried about coming in under weight, have a celebration where everyone dumps water on the car and then push it to the scales. Sneaky :wink:

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/Liebbe/Enduro%20Finish.wmv

Congratulations

[AI#97]

Team Landrum Enduro Finish

These guys are smart - When worried about coming in under weight, have a celebration where everyone dumps water on the car and then push it to the scales. Sneaky :wink:

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/Liebbe/Enduro%20Finish.wmv

Congratulations

Would have been easier to just go make a run through the mud! ;)

[Rob Liebbe]

Sunday Race 1 - after we go back to green up until I get into the oil at Turn 3 on the last lap and almost hit Chuck Penny. I thought a tire went down and limped it around the final lap for a second place. Lots of close running with Glenn - watch at 7:35 ish as I see how close I can get to him in Carousel!!!!!

Micael, did you miss a shift on the straight????

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/Liebbe/Liebbe%20TWS%20April%2009%20Race%201%20partial.mpg

[Shortcutsleeping]

Not tight enough for their Guru to join them in the series though huh?
Come on PC!
Build that carb'd 350ci 3G!
jb

Heh heh...
Well I've got enough race cars at the moment (1 will be fore sale very very shortly, then I'll just have Scratcher) and although I'm watching CMC closely, a little voice whispers 'rules creep' in my ear to the drum beat of 'to-yo, to-yo, to-yo', so I'm content right now to watch and help out when I can. You guys do put on a great show and I'd bet your numbers just keep climbing.

Hopefully your brake issue is fixed and you're back with the pack at Hallet. :D

Costas
cars and such...

[Wirtz]

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/Liebbe/Liebbe%20TWS%20April%2009%20Race%201%20partial.mpg

Look at that suit!! Spiffie....

Good video, fun stuff.

[GlennCMC70]

Team Landrum Enduro Finish

These guys are smart - When worried about coming in under weight, have a celebration where everyone dumps water on the car and then push it to the scales. Sneaky :wink:

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/Liebbe/Enduro%20Finish.wmv

Congratulations

Would have been easier to just go make a run through the mud! ;)

we did, 3 times.

[jeffburch]

we did, 3 times.

WE?
:lol:

jb

[GlennCMC70]

me two times and James once.
so yes, we.

[Al Fernandez]

Rob, what are you weighing in nowadays post race?

[jeffburch]

Hopefully your brake issue is fixed and you're back with the pack at Hallet.

Found it, finally.
Fixing is a whole other matter.
jb
http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/004sm.jpg

[Rob Liebbe]

Rob, what are you weighing in nowadays post race?

Legal.....Minimum weight is 3100 lbs, this past weekend I came across the scales at about 3144 lbs and 3148 lbs the two times I was requested to tech.

Why do you ask?

[Rob Liebbe]

Jeff,

What part is that?

[Todd Covini]

I'm going to say what is the panhard bracket off of the rear axle, Alex.

[GlennCMC70]

Hopefully your brake issue is fixed and you're back with the pack at Hallet.

Found it, finally.
Fixing is a whole other matter.
jb
http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/004sm.jpg


Jeff - bring it over and i'll fix it. i've got a big 185 now and can take care of it for you.

[jeffburch]

THx GL. Could use another set of eyes on it
Yes, PHB bracket on axle tube.
It's broke all to hell.
On left handers, it was moving over (left) and pushing the LR caliper to the left compressing the piston. Hence the long pedal after left handers.

It's gotta be pulled (tensioned back to the right) then shored up.
Then, reinforced somehow.

jb

[David Love AI27]

Sometimes the drama of an enduro is behind the scenes. See the link for David Love's headlight explanation.

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/Liebbe/Daves%20Headlight.wmv

Enjoy

hehe... I said "head" light....

for those who didn't hear the story... Misti's team was gonna be black flagged for no headlight... I retrieved my "flash"light and ratchet strap from the camper and we were gonna strap it to the hood or roof of the car... Rob got so tickled with the idea he brought over his camera... good times...

[David Love AI27]

THx GL. Could use another set of eyes on it
Yes, PHB bracket on axle tube.
It's broke all to hell.
On left handers, it was moving over (left) and pushing the LR caliper to the left compressing the piston. Hence the long pedal after left handers.

It's gotta be pulled (tensioned back to the right) then shored up.
Then, reinforced somehow.

jb

Who ya gonna call??? Mr. My panhard bar broke 3 times and I finally got it fixed...

not sure if this is a 3rd gen issue or not but if any one has extended their panhard brackets cuz you lowered your car give me a shout and I can give you some advice on strengthening your brackets so they won't fail...

[GlennCMC70]

this is a common failure when lowering the PHB. most kits include a brace to keep this from happening. i've seen the entire OEM bracket come off the housing before.

[Al Fernandez]

Wow good thing you found that JB. I'm sure you guys will patch that up just fine. Was that bracket modified from OE to move the PHB pivot point?

Rob...you're giving that 4th gen a hell of a run for its money, which is something I actually like seeing from a platform parity perspective. Its just another data point is all.

[Rob Liebbe]

Wow good thing you found that JB. I'm sure you guys will patch that up just fine. Was that bracket modified from OE to move the PHB pivot point?

Rob...you're giving that 4th gen a hell of a run for its money, which is something I actually like seeing from a platform parity perspective. Its just another data point is all.

Yeah, but he was on 888's that had run an Enduro and I was on RA1's, I still think the Mustangs need more concessions. :D

[jeffburch]

this is a common failure when lowering the PHB. most kits include a brace to keep this from happening. i've seen the entire OEM bracket come off the housing before.
Kits?
Plural as in more than one available?
Swindle at UE is the only one I've ever seen.
Who else makes one?
BTW, I've seen the UE piece, not legal in CMC.
Thx,
jb

[michaelmosty]

Wow good thing you found that JB. I'm sure you guys will patch that up just fine. Was that bracket modified from OE to move the PHB pivot point?

Rob...you're giving that 4th gen a hell of a run for its money, which is something I actually like seeing from a platform parity perspective. Its just another data point is all.

Yeah, but he was on 888's that had run an Enduro and I was on RA1's, I still think the Mustangs need more concessions. :D
I'm pretty sure Glenn ran full tread RA1's for the enduro.

Al, for comparison, I came off 3159 and 3164 (3140 min. weight / 234 hp).

[Al Fernandez]

I still think the Mustangs need more concessions
I wouldn't expect anything else from a Mustang driver :lol: :wink:

Thanks Mike

[Hood]

Sitting at my desk I can't remember which side is the axle side but I think it is the drivers side. Do the UE brackets mount to the body? If they mount to the axle, then they are legal.

7.33.2 Panhard bars:
1. Ford vehicles may add a panhard bar. The bar may be adjustable for length. One panhard bar mounting point may be height adjustable to allow for leveling of the bar, but the other mounting point must be of fixed height.
2. GM vehicles may substitute the OEM panhard bar. The bar may be adjustable for length. The passenger side mounting point must remain OEM stock. The driver side mounting point may be lowered, but only to the point where the panhard bar is parallel to the axle at ride height.

[Rob Liebbe]

[quote="michaelmostyAl, for comparison, I came off 3159 and 3164 (3140 min. weight / 234 hp).[/quote]

Yep, pulled him down the straights too!!!!

[GlennCMC70]

RA1's all weekend.

[Rob Liebbe]

Stupid Brain - I remembered that wrong.

[GlennCMC70]

i also had some major issues all weekend.
the spoiler set-up i was running didnt give much rear grip, so i was killing the rear tires. i also had a major front end shake under any braking. i've got some trashed front bushing. anyways, i couldnt use more than 3/4's of full brake. going into 1-2 it was so bad i could barely turn the wheel. a few times i thought i was going off. anyways, the car was fast down the straight w/ no spoiler (to speak of) but it hurt everywhere else. i had planned on being able to "test" it Sat morning, but that got "washed" out.

[jeffburch]

Sitting at my desk I can't remember which side is the axle side but I think it is the drivers side. Do the UE brackets mount to the body? If they mount to the axle, then they are legal.

7.33.2 Panhard bars:
1. Ford vehicles may add a panhard bar. The bar may be adjustable for length. One panhard bar mounting point may be height adjustable to allow for leveling of the bar, but the other mounting point must be of fixed height.
2. GM vehicles may substitute the OEM panhard bar. The bar may be adjustable for length. The passenger side mounting point must remain OEM stock. The driver side mounting point may be lowered, but only to the point where the panhard bar is parallel to the axle at ride height.

Pass side is body side.
Driver's is axle side.
The UE item is on the axle end of things but it's 1st hole for adjustment is well out of where it needs to be level if IRRC.
I bought one back in the day and sent it back.

jb

[MikeP99Z]

The UE bracket has two or three holes.

[GlennCMC70]

pull it out Jeff and i'll pick it up tomorrow and have it back to you before the weekend.
no charge.

[jeffburch]

That pic was from the bottom.
I couldn't have taken the foto without having taken it out already :wink:
I've gotta move quick as I'm doing a test day May 9 at ECR.
I'll call ya later tonite.
thx,
jb

[silversvo]

JB,
When your ready to put it back in, let me know I will come by and help you install it.

[jeffburch]

Thx Troy!
Hopefully Sat morn.
jb

[GlennCMC70]

that mount of Jeff's was cracked in about 5 places. 3 were found today while repairing it. its all fixed up.

[jeffburch]

Wha wha what about the other 2?
jb

[silversvo]

Thx Troy!
Hopefully Sat morn.
jb

Call me and I will be there. I get off work at 6am.

[Al Fernandez]

Wha wha what about the other 2
handycap? :lol:

[jeffburch]

Just got home with the diff from GL.
Good to go.
Thx Glenn!
jb
edit, done
http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/PHB_stayrod.jpg

[cobra132]

Must have more power :?

http://www.vimeo.com/4459824

http://www.vimeo.com/4446424

FMR

[ShadowBolt]

Must have more power :?

http://www.vimeo.com/4459824

http://www.vimeo.com/4446424

FMR

Frank,
I think I saw your lap times were two seconds a lap faster in R3 than in R2 when you had the Enduro tires on. I knew there was a reason I was pushing you so hard in R2. It couldn't just be my 331 :wink:

JJ

[AI#97]

Must have more power :?

http://www.vimeo.com/4459824

http://www.vimeo.com/4446424

FMR

Careful Frank! You might get nominated for Eric's assistant for the year end video! I loved the race 1 vid!!!

When you get a chance, PM me your combo engine/cam wise and what tuner/chip brand you have. If it's an SCT, see if you can get the tune file and email it to me. I will have my guy look at it and make some suggestions. Seems a little lazy down low but might be able to fool with timing to get a harder hit like mine.

There are a couple places you could carry some more speed through (T5, T12...) and I would be happy to loan you my plasma cutter to get some weight out quickly.

[Wirtz]

Here are highlights for race 3. DD was brave enough to mount his GoPro on the side of the car, so it caught some unique prespective video there.

Great racing by everyone, loads of good action out there.

Jeff

http://vimeo.com/4561783

[michaelmosty]

Nice video Jeff!! :(

[Al Fernandez]

That video is crazy! I dont know which screen to look at :lol: Well done Jeff.

[Fbody383]

Nice video Jeff!! :(

Great video; now I know Hood doesn't have enough square inches of orange on his "rookie" plate with that big white R on it.

[AllZWay]

That is a cool video... I kept having to back it up to see what I was missing some of the screens.

[jeffburch]

Wow!
Nice photos on NASATX website.

http://www.nasatxracing.com/gallery/main.php?cmd=album&var1=Texas+World+Speedway+April+2009/
jb

[GlennCMC70]

wow is right. she is very talented.

[GlennCMC70]

sample

[jeffburch]

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/LAW.jpg

[AllZWay]

http://www.nasatxracing.com/gallery/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=MSR+Cresson+March+2009%2FIMG_0328.jpg

[jeffburch]

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/Mixon_bicycle.jpg

[Rob Liebbe]

Group 7 - I love racing with those guys!!!! :roll:

[jeffburch]

I inquired as to if Geri is gonna be at Hallett.
Finally, a photographer worth money.
jb

[Waco Racer]

She will be there on Friday.

[jeffburch]

GOOD GOLLY!! :roll:
MORE GREAT NASATX PROMOTION!


Geri responded.
Below is a cut/paste.
===============================================

Hi Jeff,

Great to hear from you!

I have never been to Hallett, I am very much looking forward to it! I
should be driving there too but currently searching for a car to rent.

Yes I'm a fellow racer :)

Jay and Shannon have been great to work with for sure.

I am quite flattered that you all like the pictures, racing is one
true passion of mine. I don't have set fee schedules but usually a
small custom / polished batch of photos (3-5 photos is about $50-60/
per set up), some buy larger packages which can cover the main photos
to tiny details, ranging from $80-150.

All is flexible, I'm willing to help my fellow drivers however I can.

I usually provide a set of shots similar to each other but will have
some variations so you can print which is best for you. I go for the
driver/posed shots + the car, the car by itself, and a few action
shots. All are provided on CD in print quality so you can make
posters, mailers, etc.

Let me know how I can help you, and feel free to give me a call if you
have any questions. My mobile # is 480 205 3592.

Spread the word if you can that I sell photos and website work (I need
new tires for my Arizona-based Miata!) I wont be hard to find at the
track, look for a Blonde girl wearing a black baseball cap with a fat
camera. I'm always pitted with Jay Matus.

Cheers,

Geri A. Amani
REDLIGN AUTOSPORTS / Amani Design Group
Designer / Photographer / Creative Director
[ US ] 480.626.1547 [ UK ] 020 300 48791
www.redlignautosports.com / www.geriarts.com

[AllZWay]

The track took awesome photos last year...starting on Friday and charged $40 for the entire CD.

[michaelmosty]

The track took awesome photos last year...starting on Friday and charged $40 for the entire CD.
I bought that CD also, great shots.

[Wirtz]

Third. Some of the best shots ever of my car were from Hallet last year.

[Rob Liebbe]

From Hallet last year - Spec Liebbe


http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/Liebbe/Spec%20Liebbe.jpg

[jeffburch]

I commishened Geri to get a portrait shot of me and the car.
Somewhere standing on the track in the late afternoon.
Under flag stand? Victory circle? Lake Veronica? Dunno, her pick.
I got a haircut for it LOL!
Also a couple of action shots.
jb

[Rob Liebbe]

Jeff, better get it before the paint gets dirty.

[jeffburch]

Yes Dear.
jb

[Rob Liebbe]

I was going to say before it gets dented up, but didn't want to jinx your weekend. You want a Liebbe race car sticker?

[jeffburch]

No.
I had one and you stole it remember?
Which reminds me, I saw your mom's Exploder recently on 183.
jb

[Rob Liebbe]

Now she needs an new sticker.

[GlennCMC70]

http://www.nasatxracing.com/gallery/main.php?cmd=album&var1=Hallett+2009/

[Rob Liebbe]

Great photos - again. I talked to her at Hallett, she evidently has a thing for Miatas and Mustangs and while we both agreed that Miatas were for chics, that's what she is building for herself. I offered her a ride in a CMC or AI car, but since my car has no passenger seat, I expect someone else to offer her a ride at TWS. Maybe we can convert her to the proper race group - AI/CMC.

[Jeremy Gunter]

I'll buy an extra seat :lol:

[AI#97]

Great photos - again. I talked to her at Hallett, she evidently has a thing for Miatas and Mustangs and while we both agreed that Miatas were for chics, that's what she is building for herself. I offered her a ride in a CMC or AI car, but since my car has no passenger seat, I expect someone else to offer her a ride at TWS. Maybe we can convert her to the proper race group - AI/CMC.

I'll be sure to finish my car and put my spare seat in!!! I never did see a ring on her finger....

[Todd Covini]

Matt...she's too British for you and you're too American for her. :wink:

[AI#97]

Matt...she's too British for you and you're too American for her. :wink:

My ideal women would be british...could be a match made at the track!

[BryanL]

Matt...she's too British for you and you're too American for her. :wink:

My ideal women would be british...could be a match made at the track!

Doesn't sound like you have spent time in Great Britain?

[ShadowBolt]

Matt...she's too British for you and you're too American for her. :wink:

My ideal women would be british...could be a match made at the track!

You know nothing about the ideal woman......she has a great body, she's rich as sin, a Nympho and a mute.


JJ

[David Love AI27]

Matt...she's too British for you and you're too American for her. :wink:

My ideal women would be british...could be a match made at the track!

You know nothing about the ideal woman......she has a great body, she's rich as sin, a Nympho and a mute.


JJ

come on you old fart... he is still focusing on "great body"

[AI#97]

You know nothing about the ideal woman......she has a great body, she's rich as sin, a Nympho and a mute.


JJ

You forgot toothless and has a flat head.

BL...I agree British women that are still in Britain are no bueno.... British and Australian women that moved to the US are always WAY different and WAY cooler! I have had a couple in my days and they are far cooler than most US women.

[mitchntx]

You know nothing about the ideal woman......she has a great body, she's rich as sin, a Nympho and a mute.


JJ

You forgot toothless and has a flat head.

BL...I agree British women that are still in Britain are no bueno.... British and Australian women that moved to the US are always WAY different and WAY cooler! I have had a couple in my days and they are far cooler than most US women.

Are we still talking about trannys?

[evarner]

Are we still talking about trannys?

Only if trannys and leg-humpers are synonymous. :lol:

[mitchntx]

Finally got the gremlins exorcised from my machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXyhPrzpi4E

[Todd Covini]

Finally got the gremlins exorcised from my machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXyhPrzpi4E

Great vid, Mitch and nice driving!
You really stepped it up since the old days when I was racing you!
Way to put a fender on the that Fernandez feller...give 'em the Tony Stewart if he's gonna come across your bow like that! :lol: :lol: :lol:

-=- Todd

PS- Who was operating the grinding wheel in the back seat of the video?

[mitchntx]

-=- Todd

PS- Who was operating the grinding wheel in the back seat of the video?

Dunno ... it's made that sound ever since you drove it

[Todd Covini]

You can always count on Mitch for a good comeback. :?

[michaelmosty]

-=- Todd

PS- Who was operating the grinding wheel in the back seat of the video?

Dunno ... it's made that sound ever since you drove it :lol: Nice!!

[evarner]

Great video!!!! Any chance of getting any of the raw/processed footage? 8)

[jeffburch]

Man that chicken is strong in 3rd gear.
Just yankin off the corners particularly T1.
You had fun with yur bud in the 8 huh?
Good stuff.
jb

[Al Fernandez]

Thats what I thought...Steve, you did a great job there!

[jeffburch]

Oh, and the 17 headed for the grass on the start.
I had to chuckle. Reminded me of the scene in Smokey and the Bandit where the deputy was stuck behind a slower black & white on the 1 lane dirt road.
"Where you gonna pass him the woods"?

jb

[mitchntx]

I owe a LOT to Mike Patterson. He suggested some suspension tweaks and it made a HUGE difference in the way the FireChicken behaves.

And it is geared perfect for T1, but not so great for T10.

Steve and I have a blast running together. He has really stepped it up.

But let's give credit where credit is due ... Brian Lienert was on fire! Kudos to you, brother ....

[ShadowBolt]

Oh, and the 17 headed for the grass on the start.
I had to chuckle. Reminded me of the scene in Smokey and the Bandit where the deputy was stuck behind a slower black & white on the 1 lane dirt road.
"Where you gonna pass him the woods"?

jb

For some reason JB I normally get better starts than the car in front of me (right JP?). At Hallett I did this in both races and because of the rain just sat there and spun. In the first race I thought I had torn the gears out of the T5 because it would not go anywhere......it just sat there. I finally realized I was spinning. In the second race if I had kept going I would have knocked over the flag stand.


JJ

[BryanL]

Appreciate it Mitch. Like you said in race 1 the cars parted for you, I benefited from getting by the orange and the green when the rest didn't.

So now I may not only be a "one lap wonder"

[AllZWay]

[quote=jeffburch]For some reason JB I normally get better starts than the car in front of me (right JP?). JJ

Dang right... at least way better than me. I have to have a defensive strategy before the green flag. :lol:

[michaelmosty]

[quote=jeffburch]For some reason JB I normally get better starts than the car in front of me (right JP?). JJ

Dang right... at least way better than me. I have to have a defensive strategy before the green flag. :lol:
It's the stroker motor!!

[Sidney]

I think what this video shows...and especially right at the end when Mitch was behind me...is the need for just one CMC class.

Sidney Franklin
Yellow/White 3rd gen #64

[ShadowBolt]

[quote=jeffburch]For some reason JB I normally get better starts than the car in front of me (right JP?). JJ

Dang right... at least way better than me. I have to have a defensive strategy before the green flag. :lol:
It's the stroker motor!!

Yeah that stroker motor did a lot of good for me at Hallett. I got pulled by every car on the track out of the Bitch. Maybe the timing needs to be reset?


JJ

[AI#97]

Yeah that stroker motor did a lot of good for me at Hallett. I got pulled by every car on the track out of the Bitch. Maybe the timing needs to be reset?


JJ

It's because you stayed in 3rd. Most every other car I saw, even the AI guys were going to second to get the pull out up the hill...

I am sure the hot running engine wasn't helping after the first couple of laps...

[mitchntx]

3rd is a must with 3.73 gears. 2nd is too low ...

[jeffburch]

2nd is to low for 42's

jb

[David Love AI27]

hehe my 4.11 kicked ass with only 222hp... made it a fun event running with the front of CMC and CMC2... gonna miss you guys when I find another 100 hp...