RA-1

[cobra132]

Tire update. I spoke with Appalachian tires today. They were told in a letter from Toyo that RA-1s will not be available until next year. WTF. FMR

[AI#97]

sounds like a big "fuck you" from Toyo. "sure, we will build ra-1's for you again........when we f'n feel like it!"

[Fbody383]

I have tire for January and won't make Cresson... maybe by then there will be some around.

[Hood]

AJ at PST had one more set of unshaved 16" RA1's last week. Try him and see... good luck!

[BlueFirePony]

sounds like a big "fuck you" from Toyo. "sure, we will build ra-1's for you again........when we f'n feel like it!"
Then I guess I'll buy some Hoosiers , put their stickers all over my car, race my purty car in AIX and flip them the bird back :evil:

[kbrewmr2]

have you guys tried other Toyo dealers besides Appilacian?

- KB, whos last set of Totos came from Phils out of NY, but is loving life even more on the big Purples 8)

[AI#97]

have you guys tried other Toyo dealers besides Appilacian?

- KB, whos last set of Totos came from Phils out of NY, but is loving life even more on the big Purples 8)

Phils has a few sets left, but seeing I haven't had my first born yet to offer up in exchange, he can keep his fucking tires! :lol:

Also, for all....expect a nice price increase with the new boat load of tires. Heard as much as $30 per tire.

[mitchntx]

That'll help car count.

But, it's speculation and rumor at this point. far be it from me to spread rumors and start sh!t on the internet.

[David Love AI27]

:roll:

[David Love AI27]

Hoosier pricing as listed on the internet:

P255/50ZR-16 26.2 82.2 9.4 10.5 7-9" 8.0 24.0 $240

I paid $258 for shaved RA1s???

Can you tell I'm not into bondage??

[GlennCMC70]

Hoosier pricing as listed on the internet:

P255/50ZR-16 26.2 82.2 9.4 10.5 7-9" 8.0 24.0 $240

I paid $258 for shaved RA1s???

Can you tell I'm not into bondage??

and they will last a 1/3 of the time a shaved RA1 will.

[roadracerwhite]

Hoosier pricing as listed on the internet:

P255/50ZR-16 26.2 82.2 9.4 10.5 7-9" 8.0 24.0 $240

I paid $258 for shaved RA1s???

Can you tell I'm not into bondage??

and they will last a 1/3 of the time a shaved RA1 will.

Don't forget about the peformance difference between a new set and one with a few heat cycles. The fast A sedan guys use a new set every race or two.

[David Love AI27]

:x

[David Love AI27]

:?:

[GlennCMC70]

i was only pointing out that $18 a tire difference is not the only consideration.

[BlueFirePony]

i was only pointing out that $18 a tire difference is not the only consideration.
Its a lot more than $18 a tire on 18s.
275/35/R18 - $359 (Toyo RA1) vs $300 (Hoosier RA6)
The Hoosiers were better performing for me as well.

AIX here I come. I mean if I am going to finish last I might as well finish last in the top class :)

[David Love AI27]

Whine

[mitchntx]

So what is the pressing reason to buy a set of anything TODAY? Seriously .. SERIOUSLY!

Why not cross the tire bridge when it gets here.

EVERYTHING to this point is rumor and hear-say.

[cobra132]

Its just frustrating for those of us with bad OCD. Plus there are only 3 months till our first race. Maybe we should run AIX next year, pick an available tire and go. Same fun level, no dyno hassels, ummm. FMR

[David Love AI27]

Anybody got some cheese?

[TJ Bain]

I know everyone is looking for new tires to use their Toyo Bucks on, but what does it matter what the date codes are? I ran all year on 05/06 date code tires with some 888s thrown in for good measure.

I'm sitting on some used 06/07 RA1s to run next year and waiting until the last moment to send this year's Toyo Bucks in.

[AI#97]

I know everyone is looking for new tires to use their Toyo Bucks on, but what does it matter what the date codes are? I ran all year on 05/06 date code tires with some 888s thrown in for good measure.

I'm sitting on some used 06/07 RA1s to run next year and waiting until the last moment to send this year's Toyo Bucks in.

I ran all the practice sessions at Utah on 04' rains I got from Robin last year at Midohio. They were easily 1.5 to 2 seconds slower than the 07 fresh stuff I had on the car on Sunday.

Fresh tires are nice and needed in this region with all the close racing in CMC.

[BlueFirePony]

Whine
Now if you are gonna be that way, I won't run AIX with you :wink:

[Rob Liebbe]

Back to RA-1's...

I just got off the phone with Phil's Tire Service. Large shipments are due in January, but there is a long backorder list that will consume most of that. Call your favorite supplier and get on the order list, I predict a mad scramble when they come in.

I should be set for January - you better be ready. Glenn - you should come on the tires you ran Race 1 at ECR in October, those were awesome. :roll: In fact loan some like that to Wirtz, Mosty, Francis and Roberts.

[michaelmosty]

I spoke with Stan Chen yesterday evening. He is the head of the motorsports division with Toyo(boss of Angela who issues the "bucks").
They are not doing anything with the Toyo bucks that expire in Nov. or Dec. even though there is not a single RA1 available to buy in the country. He said that since the R888 is a tire we can run for the first 3 events of 2010 we should use our Toyo bucks for 888's.

I asked him why they wouldn't just extend the expiration date on the Toyo bucks that we "earned" and he said that he has had long conversations with the powers that be at NASA and they have come to the agreement to leave it as is.

Personally I think it is all a big pile of shit!!

Add to the fact that we might not even have tires before the first event and it makes it even better. :x

[David Love AI27]

8)

[rpoz27]

he has had long conversations with the powers that be at NASA and they have come to the agreement that ****** *** ***** * **** ***** *** ******** *** ** **** ** **** *** *****

DL, take a moment and smell the Hoosiers. You'll feel much better. :wink:

[michaelmosty]

The more people I talk to (Toyo distributors) that more I laugh at how big a freakin joke Toyo is. I'm getting the feeling that this "new RA1 availability" is going to be a bigger mess than the 888 was, or RA1 was, or 888 was, etc.

[David Love AI27]

8)

[michaelmosty]

My problem is that after talking to people at Toyo and some of the distributors I now know more of what is really going on and it makes me sick to my stomach at how it is being handled.

[kbrewmr2]

some incoherent rant

:lol: well, 3 out of 4 are true

[AI#97]

I'm starting to think I have bought my last set of toyos.

[David Love AI27]

he has had long conversations with the powers that be at NASA and they have come to the agreement that ****** *** ***** * **** ***** *** ******** *** ** **** ** **** *** *****

DL, take a moment and smell the Hoosiers. You'll feel much better. :wink:


DELETE, DELETE, DELETE

[AllZWay]

I am lucky that I have a new set already for next year.

I am worried about my Toyo Bucks that I have from the season points and if I will get to use them before they expire.

[Rob Liebbe]

So, if I bought a set of 16" RA-1's today, was that the last set in America?

[Alien]

Force you to buy a set of tires for 3 weekends, and another for the next 3. Yeah, from a salesmans perspectice that's a great idea! From someone that has to stretch their tire budget, that's crap.

Oh well. NASATx will see their car count drop by one til I get some RA1's. Sorry.

[ShadowBolt]

All I have are 888's (one set at that). I have $100.00 in Toyo Bucks plus whatever we get for third in season points in CMC2 for 2009. I have not even looked, are the 17's available? That crap Michael was told is total horse $hit. What about Hankook? I know they would have a tire that would cost way less. Telling someone to buy those POS 888's is wrong. If NASA agreed as Michael was told then NASA really cares about us.......just like we always knew they did.


JJ

[michaelmosty]

Jerry, from my knowledge there is not a set of 275/40/17's in the nation. I talked to Appalachian Tire and he said he has 1 tire if I happen to piece together 3 more. :lol:
Rob, I have not looked for 16's b/c I was planning on running CMC2 next year and was going to start with 17's.

[mitchntx]

I would concur with Micheal's find.

AJ at PST found 4 for me in a warehouse two weeks ago. I have since sent them to Steve as I have enough tire to get me through a weekend or so.

It sucks ...

[ShadowBolt]

How about anyone with RA1's has to start facing backwards. I'm not sure that would make it fair but it would help. I guess I will be on 888's for the first race of the year......at least.


JJ

[michaelmosty]

How about anyone with RA1's has to start facing backwards. I'm not sure that would make it fair but it would help. I guess I will be on 888's for the first race of the year......at least.


JJ
I might be on corded tires after the first session or two. They'll probablly still be better than 888's. :lol:

[David Love AI27]

It sucks ...

U think???

Only 3 sets of thin to wins, here

I'm still in the market for a "truer"

[AllZWay]

Pretty crappy that we are going to have tiregate 2. :roll:

[kbrewmr2]

All I have are 888's (one set at that). I have $100.00 in Toyo Bucks plus whatever we get for third in season points in CMC2 for 2009. I have not even looked, are the 17's available? That crap Michael was told is total horse $hit. What about Hankook? I know they would have a tire that would cost way less. Telling someone to buy those POS 888's is wrong. If NASA agreed as Michael was told then NASA really cares about us.......just like we always knew they did.


JJ

If I were wirting the rules for a brand new series with a control tire (kinda like AI & HC have, hmm) - I'd be hard pressed to spec anything besides the BFG R1 if it really is as good as reported. Hoosier grip and RA1 lifespan

[Shortcutsleeping]

Wha?

BFG R1 has Hoosier grip? Can anyone who has data back this up?



Costas
cars and such...

[AI#97]

:lol:

Ken. Does bfg have a rain solution or do you just use a kdw?

[AI#97]

On a personal note. I'd like to see an American tire used in American iron but that is just me.

[mitchntx]

A customer of ours let me know that he has a set of RA1 full treads, lightly scuffed in size 255/16 that he would be willing to make a deal to some one who is going to miss Houston because of tire availability.

He lives in the Houston area.

PM me and I'll send you his e-mail address.

[AJ@PST]

I have one set of 255/50-16s left. $880 for the set, full tread, I will accept Toyo Bucks.

[AJ@PST]

I have one set of 255/50-16s left. $880 for the set, full tread, I will accept Toyo Bucks.

SOLD!

[kbrewmr2]

:lol:

Ken. Does bfg have a rain solution or do you just use a kdw?

Hrm, probably... unless it became open tire if a rain race was declared (or open tire above X treadwear, etc)

[AI#97]

:lol:

Ken. Does bfg have a rain solution or do you just use a kdw?

Hrm, probably... unless it became open tire if a rain race was declared (or open tire above X treadwear, etc)

Well, Tire Rack has R1's in 275/40/17 for $244 ea right now, and the KDW's are like $135 ea. I might grab a set just to give em a try.