Houston Area Dyno Day

[Alien]

Starting this more as a placeholder...


THIS JUST IN!!! I talked to Gary over at Horsepower Engineering yesterday. He agreed to $40 per car for 3 pulls. We need at least 10 cars to show up for this price. Gary R... bring yo posse!

If y'all are in, we need to nail down a date to do this, preferably early January so that I can get on their schedule.
JANUARY 9th, it's ON

8am - whenever everyone is done
We need some people to show up at 8 so we can make sure everyone gets the pulls they want.

http://www.horsepowerengineering.com/
? Address:
11950 Perry Road, STE G Houston, TX 77064
? Phone: 281-477-3100


As long as they have the correct dyno and can get tq readings on a Mustang, I'll let you (Gary HOOD) go ahead and set up the details :)

1 Gary H
2 Gary R
3 David F
4 Wade Z
5 Rob L
6 Richard P
7 Sam C
8 Wayne
9 Randy E
10 Jeremiah K (tuning)
11 Dave Neary
12 Edison (TTer)
13 Laura (Sky)
14 Ron (Challenger SRT)
15 Brown (Foxbody)
16 Alex (Third gen)
17 My Dad (G8 GT)
18 Laura's Dad (Fox)

19 Eric V *
* Maybe

[Fbody383]

I'm open presuming the engine isn't; just the one gas-O-line vehicle.

I guess I could tow the car up with the tractor.

edited for Glenn like spelling

[Wade]

I'm in for HPE pending acceptable details. (Date mostly)

[evarner]

Depends on the date.

#2 car - still blowed up
#34 car - not sure if it would turn the dyno drums

[marshall_mosty]

#2 car - still blowed up
Fille me in. What happenend to #2?

[Rob Liebbe]

Count me in. Jan 2/3 or 9/10 work for me!

[evarner]

pm sent, Marshall

[Al Fernandez]

I'm in

[Hood]

So many Gary's here...

Gary R, can you update the list (via editting your post) so that I can keep a running total of all committments?

Let's shoot for a Jan 9th (I'll confirm with Gary at HPE) EARLY start. Will try to get us an appointment for 8 am.

LET ME KNOW ASAP if this date is alright with everyone!

[evarner]

Put me down as maybe - depending on if I can get either car done by then (which I should).

[Alien]

9th works for me.

Talked to my dad. He's willing to dyno his '08 G8 GT to make the required 10 people if needed. Will talk to a guy wik an '10 Camaro and another guy wik an '09 Challenger SRT to have more backups. :D

[kbrewmr2]

I can put the word out to the TT guys if you need backups as well - some of those guys need a dyno for rules compliance like you guys :)

let me know

[Alien]

Hey Gary, may want to find out if there is a MAXimum number of cars they will do in a day for $40! :D

[Hood]

I'm gonna guess that 15 cars will pretty much fill the day.

[ShadowBolt]

I'm gonna guess that 15 cars will pretty much fill the day.


15 is too many in a 8 hour day. 10 is a good number.


JJ

[Hood]

I was thinking more along a 12 hour day... 8am to 8pm

[Fbody383]

I'm in; got a kitchen pass from the Queen of the Calendar.

Now, about those remaining valve springs...

[David Love AI27]

I'm gonna guess that 15 cars will pretty much fill the day.


15 is too many in a 8 hour day. 10 is a good number.


JJ

I don't need to do any, if you guys run out of room... I'm just curious about the #3 car as compared to last year... AIX #27 won't need one and the TT #10 shouldn't need one either

[Wade]

I'm in for Jan 9. I am pretty sure that Ron (SRT Challenger) wants to come as he had a blast spectating last year. If there is room, I'm sure he will dyno, provided there is time.

[Hood]

I just talked to Gary at HPE again. He said that there should be NO PROBLEM taking 30 cars. Their dyno days (making 2 pulls) are accommodating 60 cars... so 30 should be NO problem. Those that wish to do some tuning during their dyno stint will have to be at the end of the line and work out your price for addtional pulls with Gary at the time. So... tell all yer buds to BRING IT! AGAIN... this will be $40 per car for 3 pulls. Update here with your car counts. Gary R. is editing the first post to keep a running total.

[GlennCMC70]

i think we should have a AI/CMC Official show up to this w/ this many cars attending.

[David Love AI27]

:roll:

[Rob Liebbe]

Al said he was in. What more could you want besides both the AI and CMC National directors at our beck and call right here in Houston. Eat your heart out Dallas and Austin.

[mitchntx]

Al said he was in. What more could you want besides both the AI and CMC National directors at our beck and call right here in Houston. Eat your heart out Dallas and Austin.

So you went all in with that?

I call ... Dallas (area) has Glenn. King beats a Queen and Duece every time.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/16732/845956.jpg

[David Love AI27]

Time to change the bong water.. opps, did I say that outloud???

[AI#97]

Al said he was in. What more could you want besides both the AI and CMC National directors at our beck and call right here in Houston. Eat your heart out Dallas and Austin.

So you went all in with that?

I call ... Dallas (area) has Glenn. King beats a Queen and Duece every time.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/16732/845956.jpg

Mitch, unless you haven't checked lately, YOU are the only one that is FOND of Glenn! And if Glenn is your King, doesn't that make you HIS queen?! Yikes! :shock: :lol:

[Todd Covini]

Oh boy...the poker faces are really showing up now.
It's awesome you guys are running with this tradition.
I'm sure either Al or I could make it out there....I'm not available for the 9th....but likely any other weekend. Make sure to take photos and record #'s!!!

-=- T

PS - Rob....you've said it 3 times now, if I'm going to be at your BECKONED CALL then at least pronounce it properly. Only Glenn refers to it as Beck & Call....get it right! :lol:

[RichardP]

Team Red Shift in for the 9th...


Richard P.

[AI#97]

Time to change the bong water.. opps, did I say that outloud???

Yep, read it and laughed my ass off!!!! DAVID FUCKING LOVE!!!! Whoop!!!!

[ShadowBolt]

I just talked to Gary at HPE again. He said that there should be NO PROBLEM taking 30 cars. Their dyno days (making 2 pulls) are accommodating 60 cars... so 30 should be NO problem. Those that wish to do some tuning during their dyno stint will have to be at the end of the line and work out your price for addtional pulls with Gary at the time. So... tell all yer buds to BRING IT! AGAIN... this will be $40 per car for 3 pulls. Update here with your car counts. Gary R. is editing the first post to keep a running total.


So in a 12 hour day he can do 60 cars? That is 12 minutes each. At the place I go the guy takes longer than that to strap the car down.


JJ

[AI#97]

So in a 12 hour day he can do 60 cars? That is 12 minutes each. At the place I go the guy takes longer than that to strap the car down.


JJ

Typical "dyno days" here in Dallas where they have 3 guys dedicated to operating the dyno can do 50 or 60 cars in 10 hours easily. Sometimes so fast the printer can't keep up.

[Alien]

Going with the 30 number as the cap, I think we will come under that because somethig will always come up for a few people. I've got a few people interested (with the understanding that racecars come first), and Ken is going to see if a few TT's will be interested.

[kbrewmr2]

I put the word out to the TT folks - thanks! 8)

go ahead and put me down actually, I'll be in the running for lowest horsepower I bet :oops:

[Fbody383]

Make sure to take photos and record #'s!!!

211/284... I'll change the date on the photo and get it to Al and Glenn.

[Rob Liebbe]

PS - Rob....you've said it 3 times now, if I'm going to be at your BECKONED CALL then at least pronounce it properly. Only Glenn refers to it as Beck & Call....get it right! :lol:

Sorry - I'll try to do better - don't beat me - its not my fault - I live in Tomball - Obama made me do it. Pick one.

[David Love AI27]

- I live in Tomball -

livin her taint nuttin... its us-in thet gradjutated her thats gots an excyous... THS Class of '79

[kbrewmr2]

- I live in Tomball -

livin her taint nuttin... its us-in thet gradjutated her thats gots an excyous... THS Class of '79

'00 here and I turned out ok... I think... :lol:

[David Love AI27]

- I live in Tomball -

livin her taint nuttin... its us-in thet gradjutated her thats gots an excyous... THS Class of '79

'00 here and I turned out ok... I think... :lol:

THS?? '00?? Remember Ms. Roach in the history department??? She was my history teacher in '78... Was your VP - Mrs. Houston?

[kbrewmr2]

those names both ring a bell, though I didn't deal with either one much.

[Crumpacker]

I'm in for the 9th.

We'll see how far the creamsicle powerplant is from all your domed-piston strokers... :roll:

[HoustonNW]

I put the word out to the TT folks - thanks! 8)

go ahead and put me down actually, I'll be in the running for lowest horsepower I bet :oops:

Since I'll prolly still be "TT folks" in 2010, I might want to get a dyno cert.

Just curious Ken, can we get that d*mn Cobalt SS in TTC DQ'd on HP without a dyno cert? (Free tunes for turbo cars, give me a frigging break!)

[rleng1]

I'm in any day since I will be attempting to restrict the LS1 motor to required HP. Will need some base line pulls, and then hope I get the plate size correct. Just remember how much fun 300 hp is.
Randy English #7 Camaro/ CMC2

[kbrewmr2]

I'm going to have to drop out - thats the same day as the officials meeting in Austin (and a friends wedding in FL, and... ugh)

[Alien]

It's ON!


9th is good. Gary (the owner) says bring all we can. They can accommodate up to 30 and maybe more cars.
I'm good with the number we have. Lets people make multiple pulls for tuning and not feeling rushed. 1st post updated.

[David Love AI27]

It's ON!


9th is good. Gary (the owner) says bring all we can. They can accommodate up to 30 and maybe more cars.
I'm good with the number we have. Lets people make multiple pulls for tuning and not feeling rushed. 1st post updated.

Any chance we can get our tech done at the same time? Also, I will only have one car.

[GlennCMC70]

this is the same weekend as the NASA Key Staff and Director meeting in Austin. Al and Todd will not be able to attend this so i'll be attending it.

Good idea guys and i had already planned on that happening, but the stars and moon just did not line up. we will knock this out Friday and Saturday at MSRH.

[jeremiahkellam]

I think I will get in on this. Put me down for for 2 spots (may do a little fine tuning)

[Hood]

OK... I dropped by HPE yesterday to talk to Gary Harmon and make sure our date is set. We need some cars there by 8 am in order for us to get these all done. I'm planning on having my car up there the night before (I drive by the place every day anyway). Anyway, we should start designating a window of time for everyone to be there. The parking area is large enough to accommodate all our cars but there needs to be an organized parking array done with the trailers. When you come into HPE you be going along 1960 at some point. Turn south onto Perry Rd. You will then have to make a U turn at the first opportunity. Turn into the second driveway and park lengthwise along both sides of the curbing. We can overflow into the hotel parking lot if needed.

Let the thrashing continue...

Here's the sat map... http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

[Al Fernandez]

I'll be on a plane on my way to Australia on the 9th, so wont be able to make it. I'll let Todd speak for himself, he may be available.

Anyone want to borrow my car to get it dynoed? :lol:

[David Love AI27]

I'll be on a plane on my way to Australia on the 9th, so wont be able to make it. I'll let Todd speak for himself, he may be available.

Anyone want to borrow my car to get it dynoed? :lol:

Jason and I can... It will also give me the chance to fix the hole in your trailer... :wink:

[rleng1]

I'm flexible anytime that day, would prefer early in the morning. I will like to get a base line pull, hopefully put in the correct restrictor plate, and then obtain the 3 cert pulls.

[Hood]

Remember to arrange for your additional pulls prior to bringing your car up for the 3 certified pulls. We are going to try to get the cars that only need the 3 pulls done first and then pull in the cars that want to tune. Race cars get preferrence over street cars for time slots. Be there early to get yours done early.

[David Love AI27]

I'll be on a plane on my way to Australia on the 9th, so wont be able to make it. I'll let Todd speak for himself, he may be available.

Anyone want to borrow my car to get it dynoed? :lol:

Jason and I can... It will also give me the chance to fix the hole in your trailer... :wink:

I gotta retract my offer... Jason is on his own...

[way2neary]

If it is not too late, I'd like to have my car dyno'd. Count me in.

Dave Neary

[David Love AI27]

I am helping my daughter move to Kentucky this week and jason is working on Saturday, so we won't be making the dyno day.

[rleng1]

Remember to arrange for your additional pulls prior to bringing your car up for the 3 certified pulls. We are going to try to get the cars that only need the 3 pulls done first and then pull in the cars that want to tune. Race cars get preferrence over street cars for time slots. Be there early to get yours done early.

Gary, should we contact HPE ourselves to ensure appropriate scheduling or just show up early and work up a schedule according to who shows up.
Thanks, Randy

[Hood]

Dyno's should start at 8 am. First come first served. Race cars will get preference over a street car but we will need a steady supply of cars until we are done. If you need to tune as well as getting your three cert. pulls you need to contact me or Gary Harmon at HPE. I'm sending the final total to him Wednesday.

[Al Fernandez]

So how many are you expecting now Gary?

[Todd Covini]

I can't make it. I'll be in Daytona to help out as a Field Official in preparation for the Rolex 24 later in the month.

Wish we could have made it but this weekend has a lot of stuff going on.

Since there won't be any series directors attending, For those racers attending, print off 2010 Dyno Tech sheets. Follow the instructions on the back. Bring a tire gauge with you, it's important to get alll cars at 30lbs. Make sure to have the dyno operator or other 3rd party sign/attest that it was all done. (Perhaps Rob L. or Ken B. could help with this as our representatives.)

Be sure to take pics and capture the details of the day! We all love to hear how it went and a little picture/video action could be added to a 2010 season recap if someone steps forward.

-=- Todd

[Fbody383]

Bring a tire gauge with you, it's important to get alll cars at 30lbs.

Bring an air compressor... it's gonna be below freezing.

Is my diesel gonna gel up?

[Alien]

First post updated. Looks like 17 if everyone that said they'll show... shows. EV is still up in the air, and it looks like Al's car won't make it either.

Show up early if you can. Rock, Paper, Scissors to see who goes next onto the Dyno. I got nothing to do all day, so I plan on showing up early and staying til the end to laugh at Dave's numbers.

[jeremiahkellam]

Maybe someone will answer my question here... All I can find is a '09 dyno sheet, is that still good or is there a '10 sheet somewhere out there??

[Todd Covini]

JK,
Good point....use the 2010 AI/CMC Dyno Sheet in the appendix of the 2010 AI Rules.

Looks like the CMC site needs to update the dyno sheet link.

-=- Todd

[jeremiahkellam]

thanks, I did not look in the rules, duh!

[Rob Liebbe]

How late do we expect this to go? I have a conflict from 10am to noon, I can probably get there by 1. I only plan on the three pulls.

[Alien]

Not really sure. Seems like these guys have their act together if they can do 60 cars in a day, they potentially could be done with 16 by noon, Could you get there just after 8? I have no problem if the #1 is the next car in line after whatever is on the rollers when you show up. Either that or we'll just stall them til you get there :-D

[RichardP]

If I show up, it will be after lunch. It's supposed to 20 degrees at 8 am. Not only does that sound like no fun, I really don't want to kill the car (again). I also have to question the results when you are that far from the conditions you normall run in.

At this point I'll probably wait for a different day...


Richard P.

[David Love AI27]

If I show up, it will be after lunch. It's supposed to 20 degrees at 8 am. Not only does that sound like no fun, I really don't want to kill the car (again). I also have to question the results when you are that far from the conditions you normall run in.

At this point I'll probably wait for a different day...


Richard P.

looks like Al and LiiR will be lookin to do it another day also

[Al Fernandez]

My bad guys, the CMC site still has the '09 dyno sheet. I've asked Brad to update it, but meanwhile it is included in the AI rules posted on the national site.

[Rob Liebbe]

Not really sure. Seems like these guys have their act together if they can do 60 cars in a day, they potentially could be done with 16 by noon, Could you get there just after 8? I have no problem if the #1 is the next car in line after whatever is on the rollers when you show up. Either that or we'll just stall them til you get there :-D

I could possibly get ther early and cut in line. I'll be in touch. Thanks.

[Fbody383]

I got nothing to do all day, so I plan on showing up early and staying til the end to laugh at Dave's numbers.

Cool; I might need help pushing it on the trailer - again.

I WAS going to have the interior painted all nice and pretty but I couldn't find any SuperNovae Reducer. Bet I'm the only car there with no windshield.

I'll bring some extra diesel so we can start a fire to warm Pederson up.

[Hood]

I might suggest that before you pull up in line that you do a bit of driveline warmup. It will be VERY cold in the morning and your fluids will be like molasses. This WILL affect numbers to the low side if you aren't warmed up. This COULD bite you later if they dyno the top guys at an event. Also, it is not very nice to your diff/trans. Bring jack stands so you can run through the gears...

[jeremiahkellam]

I think I am going to have to pass on this deal... Just too damn cold!!!

[Rob Liebbe]

I think I am going to have to pass on this deal... Just too damn cold!!!

Wimp!!!! I'm in Pittsburgh today, working outside, 23 degrees and snowing this afternoon.

[Alien]

Knocker is loaded up and wrapped up. See you goobers tomorrow!

[Fbody383]

I should have brough some diesel for a fire, it was cold.

Really, I should have brought a car but I'm a hack mechanic that apparenlty can't put on front brakes - you guys might want to let me start up front.

Hood had a mechanical because the new rear axle had larger flanges than the old one and the brakes wouldn't bolt up.

Gary (per usual) drove the car, made pulls and re-loaded. Laura put the Sky on the drums and spun to an owner unimpressed number post factory upgrade tune. I'll remind them how to challenge a credit card charge.

Alex brought the street third gen, with the 1/4 mile numbers still on the windows and after we built a bridge so the long tubes could clear the rollers, made nice pulls with a strong sounding AND printing hot rod. Nice.

Who brought the dodge? Nick? No CMC for you - just go after that thing with a plasma torch and run AI.

Gary's dad had the G8 all warmed up but apparently it has the turning radius of the Queen Mary - or, since Gary was driving, it explains why he looks late turning in a bunch of corners. G8 made a nice, respectable, albeit quiet pull. But hey, he did have a car there.

Wade... come on now. The Duece better hope his driving is down on power because the car ain't. That little 5 liter spun 'em up and sounded good in the process. Got to etch in my brain that it won't be Jerry/Jay going around me now in that particular pony.

Speaking of The Duece - perfect weather for the Dreamsicle. It was chilly enough to keep Sam and the car chattering. Looking at the top-end-less photos from a week ago, that boy's been busy. But as I know first hand, sometimes those rockers just aren't as tight as they used to be after putting the motor back together. I had to bail before they ran, but based on my super secret spy photos, I'm SURE he spun em well.

Did I mention it was cold?

Thanks to Hood for getting us set up - guys at the shop were friendly and efficient. Now, where's that 5/8" to take out some of that rocker clatter and an 18 AND 19 since Al likes random brake hardware.

I'll have to wait for another day to see if it's going to be another 211/284 year; or, wait - you guys trust me, right?

[michaelmosty]

So what were the official numbers?

[Rob Liebbe]

So what were the official numbers?

I think the low was 23 F and the high was 45 F. 8)

220, 222, 222 for my POS

[Hood]

So what were the official numbers?

I think the low was 23 F and the high was 45 F. 8)


Rob's right, those were the numbers...

My feet haven't thawed yet.

[Hood]

Some photos from dyno day at HorsePower Engineering.[/img]

[Crumpacker]

I had 2 pulls, adjusted timing a bit, then pulled 258,259,263. Whoop! I think my tq average was around 295.

Of course there was the little mishap that created a 15ft steam cloud and brought out the mop and bucket... the rubber-cap-heater-bypass on my water pump gave up on life. Darcie got some pretty good shots of the mayhem, I'll get them posted tonight.

[Todd Covini]

Nice! Thanks for the recap and the pics.
Sounds like you guys had fun...I'll post up a few highlights of my weekend after I catch up on some sleep and download my pics.

[Al Fernandez]

Very cool stuff. I heard Randy pulled right at 260/300. So much for restricted LS1s not making any torque eh? :lol:

Glad you guys had fun while I was sitting in an airplane for 22hrs.

[Alien]

Knocker only outpowered Edison in his TT VW.
My numbers were...
209/272
212/274
215 /275

Laura's Sky pulled the same 218 hp as last year, pre-factory tune upgrade vs post-upgrade :(

Alex in the 3G w/ ZZ4 crate - 295/360

Ron's Challenger SRT8 put down 375/377. He's our next victim to coerse into building/buying CMC2 car in a year or so.

My dad's G8 GT was ~288/319 IIRC

Thanks for all that showed up. For a while in the morning I didn't think we'd have the required 10 cars to get the discount. Next year... Prepay :-o

[kbrewmr2]

next year don't schedule it on top of the directors meeting :P

[Todd Covini]

...or Rolex practice days.

[Fbody383]

Shout out to Gary and the guys at HPE... thanks.

Oh, and Hood for showing up and not stomping off in a huff.

And Dr. Horsepower for the plate recommendation.

Wrong restrictor - 221hp/289tq

Close enough restrictor - 227hp/290tq

No restrictor, i.e. To Deuce or Not to Duece - 256hp/298tq

Should be a fun weekend.

[Al Fernandez]

Is that on unleaded or diesel? :lol:

[GlennCMC70]

All hail the mighty Valvespring!

[michaelmosty]

To Deuce or Not to Duece?
When presented with that question, ALWAYS DUECE!! :lol: