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I think a lot of people care and agree with Terry. That's why we are doing the experimental tire thing...


Richard P.

Well, we wouldn't be policing tread depth. The whole point of this exercise is to find a tire that we can run down to no tread while still being competitive. We would be trying to police shaving. ...

All that setup work (specific to Josh's car, anyway) is planned for this weekend. That's assuming the weather plays nice. The forecast is all over the map and changing every time I look. If the...

Since we don't appear to be doing a full tire test at Cresson, Josh had to buy a set of Toyo's to race on. That, combined with the test tires, fixing his brakes from the last race, and the general...

I haven't measured them yet. Starting at full tread. Measuring will certainly be part of the testing. Also part of the test is to see if they can handle full abuse at full tread depth without...

I've gotten mine mounted also. It's getting a bit out of hand. I have four vehicles and a trailer, all sitting on their tires and this stack is still left over. There is something wrong with us......

I'm not planning doing any tests with shaved tires. Just write the rule to not allow shaving. If it's possible to gain a performance advantage by paying extra to turn the tires into one weekend or...

The R888 when we were running it got greasy if you pushed it too hard. It wasn't fun to drive or race. It was said that it needed a more sophisticated driver to extract it's full performance. The...

Mine are ordered so Josh will have stickers to run with on Sunday morning...


Richard P.

The next big question is whether the testers are racing or TTing as part of the experiment? Signing up for TT would mean purchasing Azenis and Toyos and signing up for racing and supersizing to TT. ...

It probably costs less to run a Miata but more to be in the top half of the field in a Miata. They run the same tires we do and replace them just as much or more than we do. It's way cheaper and...

At this point my vote would be for the 275, mostly to make it easier to get buy in from the rest of the group. It has almost the exact same specs as the current tire on OD, load rating, section...

Is it currently, though? I've run the NT01 before. It was fine but I didn't do a detailed comparison of performance from old to new. The bigger question is whether the NT01 you can buy now is the...

According to the Falken tire website, the 245 isn't good for the width of the wheels we run. http://www.falkentire.com/tires/passenger-car-tires/azenis-rt615k-tire

245 = 7.5-9.0"
255 = ...

Nobody has committed to anything yet. The test group can go that way if they want. I don't think the data is quite as good but it might be sufficient. At least good enough to see if more testing...

I don't believe anyone has purchased yet but we are rapidly approaching where it's time to shit or get off the pot.

We currently have Dan, Josh, Tyler, and Records. I haven't ever had rain...

Definitely one of the advantages of the current RR is no shaving. Shaving adds cost and significantly reduces the places available to purchase. I think a rule that tire shaving isn't allowed would...

Tire test setup:

It’s important that if we do a tire test, we pay special attention to a wide variety of parameters to make sure the full package is suitable. We don’t need a different tire,...

With a thought of changing from the spec tire, I thought I would put down some of my thoughts on the current RR’s. First, some relevant tire parameters:

Life – I’ve found the current RR’s...

Interesting stuff. I have heard so many times that Toyo is so generous with their contingencies. At first blush it even seems true. But are they really? Does anyone think the cost of the...

Thinking about this more, I have other stuff to add. First, your attitude on the subject is great. It's uncommon in the world and certainly isn't pervasive among "racers". That attitude doesn't...

Wouldn’t it be cool if didn’t have to give up time against your competitors when you don’t show up with new tires???

One of the big goals of the CMC rules is to take money out of the...