So, what did you do today?

[David Love AI27]

My wife's video game Monster Katz was just approved for the Windows Phone Marketplace and should be generally available just in time for the long weekend!!
One "pass" away from being approved on the XBox (it's been in certification for several months) ...grrrrr - Phone version only took a week.
Windows version will be downloadable for free for a month - starting this weekend if get off this forum and get back to work.
Meanwhile, working on the next project that is due out the weekend of Hallet.

Thats awsome!!

[rleng1]

Got the heads back on, and everything else installed and wired up. Hit the starter, and she fired right up. Running good.
Installed new valve springs and lifters. Any break-in period needed for these additions, or straight to the track?

[GlennCMC70]

Got the heads back on, and everything else installed and wired up. Hit the starter, and she fired right up. Running good.
Installed new valve springs and lifters. Any break-in period needed for these additions, or straight to the track?

Just get a bunch of heat cycles on it. Start it up and let it heat soak for 30 minutes and kill it. Do it again the next day. 4-5 times shouldbe plenty.

Gonna need a new dyno?

[BryanL]

Just get a bunch of heat cycles on it. Start it up and let it heat soak for 30 minutes and kill it. Do it again the next day. 4-5 times shouldbe plenty.

Gonna need a new dyno?

Then change the oil. Light up the credit card and order some Motul 300V 15/50 from Bryce at Alamo.

[Wade]

Got up at 5:15am and went to watch the Plaza Hotel implosion in College Station at the corner of University and Texas. It was 17 stories tall. It was the tallest privately owned structure in the city. Now there is a pile of rubble. It was pretty amazing to see.

[ShadowBolt]

Then change the oil. Light up the credit card and order some Motul 300V 15/50 from Bryce at Alamo.

Playing Devil’s advocate how do you (or anyone else) know who’s oil is the best?

I talked to Lake Speed Jr. at Joe Gibbs about what oil to run in my MOD motor and they have one that is a 5-20 that he says will hold up to Racing temps and such. The price is very high.
Here is the e-mail string.

Jerry,


Our new FR20 should be ideal for that application. It is a 5W-20, and it has a very high viscosity index to protect your engine under higher temps.

Thanks,
Lake Speed, Jr.
Certified Lubrication Specialist
Joe Gibbs Driven
13201 Reese Blvd, Suite 200
Huntersville, NC 28078
704-239-4401

On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:48 AM, "Jerry Jordan" wrote:


I race in NASA’s Camaro Mustang Challenge series. This is road racing. I run a 2002 Ford Mustang with a 4.6 mod motor. We have to run stock engines and we are limited to 260 HP/310 TQ but we really push them hard and at high rpms for 30 to 45 minutes. Ford says to run 5/20 oil in this car as a street car but I worry about it in a racing situation. I don’t know the oil temps but I’m in Texas and I’m sure we are pushing 280-300 on hot days.

I would like to know what oil and at what weight I should run?


Thanks for your help.

Jerry

[BlueFirePony]

Playing Devil’s advocate how do you (or anyone else) know who’s oil is the best?

Who knows...I use Mobil 1 'cause I am lazy.
I gleaned a lot of knowledge (most of which I've since forgotten) when I worked for a company that specialized in extreme use lubricants (food, heavy industrial, motor sports). We sponsored a champion truck in the Baha series and also worked with some folks in the NASCAR truck series (Bodine for sure...don't remember who else).
I've been meaning to get with them about fluids for our car but just not been on top of my list.
I remember a time where one of the guys (I think Bodine) hit the wall at TMS, ruptured a line and bled all the oil out slowly through the race - did a tear down after the race and found not a single component was heat stressed beyond what they saw during a race with flowing oil. They came to our lab with some of the engine internals to show us how they looked and figured they ran at least the last quarter of the race w/o any oil flowing. This event actually preceded (and probably initiated) a competitor doing a info-mercial where they bled a car and ran it for (I think) 24 hours. From there, the claims got crazy...I think oil cures cancer now.

[BryanL]

Bobistheoilguy.com is the place to research oil.

I know what has worked for me and have had it analyzed so I will continue running Motul. I do think with what we do the oil we run and the weight is important. Some run cheap oil and change it more frequently. I will run it a full season and then have it checked by Blackstone. Some may change it midway and say they only change it to get rid of the contaminants. I have heard of guys running Mob 1 synthetic and changing it every saturday night of an event because it broke down so quickly but others run it without a problem. I feel the Motul I run doesn't break down from the heat as fast and the oil analysis support that. I'm not saying there are other oils out there that don't work well. I run Mobil 1 synthetic in my wifes Lexus and it has 251k without showing wear based on the last analysis at 247k. Rotella T6 synthetic goes in the duramax.

Joe Gibbs-I'm sure they have someone making a quality oil for them. I would always assume someone selling something to say they have something ideal for a particular application. I wouldn't run that weight oil in my race car but my understanding is Mod motors run a different weight/viscosity. Gibbs also makes an oil for the LS motors called LS30. It was recommended to English to run it. Though it is a 5/30 oil so I wouldn't put it in my race motor for a 45 minute race at Hallett.

I think anyone should monitor there cold/hot oil pressures and oil pressures during at a high rpm. That may tell you if you need to run a heavier oil or if your bearings may need to be replaced.

[HoustonNW]

I will run it a full season and then have it checked by Blackstone.

So you haven't run a full season on the same oil yet, right?

[Rob Liebbe]

Mobil 1 20W50 in my motor for the 5 seasons it was running. Changed it every two or three weekends and was only starting to see any problems with high rpm oil pressure. The rebuild will get a bearing clearance check and replacement if needed, new oil pump, and a Canton road race pan filled with Mobil 1 20W50. I was running a stock pan and just overfilled by 1 or 2 quarts until the pressure remained steady in high G turns. I'm afraid to change oils because I've seen a couple of people lose motors soon after doing so.


Yeah, I know, not very scientific or "engineery". Richard is probably rolling his eyes right now.