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    Rules open season!

    Todd and I both posted on our respective national forums that we are officially in rules revision season. Both for AI and CMC we're asking for rules change requests (RCR) in the same format. Since Todd and I are both here, please submit your thoughts to us both and copy Glenn.

    --- 1) Name / Region / Car # / Contact Info (email or phone, etc)
    --- 2) Rule reference # (ex.- Rule 3.2 – Title, Part, section…)
    --- 3) Recommended Revised Wording
    --- 4) Reasoning for change MUST include at least 1 of the following:
    ---------->a) Willl decrease series cost because…
    ---------->b) Will increase driver safety because...
    ---------->c) Will increase series growth because…
    ---------->d) Will improve competition because…
    ---------->e) Will provide more clarity because...
    Al Fernandez

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    Senior Member Site AdminCarroll Shelby michaelmosty's Avatar
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    Is it possible for us non-directors to also see what is being suggested?
    -Michael Mosty
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelmosty
    Is it possible for us non-directors to also see what is being suggested?

    FOOL ! HOW DARE YOU MAKE SUCH A REQUEST!
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    In CMC we've published a list of everything that has been suggested and we'll continue to do so. In AI I dont believe JWL ever did that formally, but its Todd's show now. Todd?
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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby Fbody383's Avatar
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    Open season lasts until???

    Quote Originally Posted by Al 'on the othe forum' Fernandez
    As in the past, we want to get next years rules out by the end of October. Our goal is to only make changes that clarify intent unless the change reduces cost, improves safety, or enables closer competition (closer does not mean lower lap times by the way!).
    So... sooner rather than later; check.


    EDIT: because i thought i didn't read what Al didn't post and was going to own up to posting before reading again.
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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby
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    rules??? lol... beer burns when it comes out your nose...........

    are these so called "rules":

    A.) national rules
    B.) regional rules
    C.) both
    D.) neither
    E.) all of the above
    F.) none of the above
    G.) optional
    H. includes all directors
    I.) excludes all directors

    or

    J.) now, only apply to CMC1 #3

    sorry Jason... I couldn't resist....
    ?????

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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Fernandez
    In CMC we've published a list of everything that has been suggested and we'll continue to do so. In AI I dont believe JWL ever did that formally, but its Todd's show now. Todd?
    Last year I provided a list of things that were submitted/suggested and I'll do the same this year. Check the historical AI posts over on the nasaforums.

    -=- Todd

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    Since not all of you visit the CMC national site, this is what is on the list so far. Remember, these are requests by CMC drivers, not an indication of a decision.

    - Allow 305 vortec heads 12552520 or 12558059 in addition to the L31 heads already allowed for GM CMC2 cars

    - Clarify allowances for trimming under the dash

    - Clarify requirements for covering dash openings and replacement of trim pieces such as the 4th gen under windshield cover, glove box doors, etc.

    - Allow T56 and 6060 transmissions in 4.6 cars to enable alternate 5th gear options

    - Allow Performer RPM and Performer RPM Air Gap manifolds in GM carbed CMC2 cars as we already do for Fords

    - Clarify that any of the specified components can be used for a carbed engine, its not that all must be used

    - Clarify home made air filter assemblies are ok

    - Enable defeating steering wheel lock, not just removal

    - Limit driver rearward relocation by requiring pedals to be bolted to OE location and not allowing the combination of custom pedals, shifter, and steering column extension

    - Allow installation of anti theft defeating devices as long as they are external to the PCM

    - Allow high temp coatings on exhaust manifolds

    - Clarify 4th gens can modify PS pumps, but must use an OE pump not an aftermarket one

    - Clarify CMC min wheel weight is 16, not "more than" 16

    - Allow aluminum pressure plates as they are stock in some applications

    - Modify dyno procedure to require water temp between 185 and 205, not at specific temps. Require temp to be measured by something other than the car's gauge.

    - Review strut tower bar to cage 7th and 8th points provision
    Al Fernandez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Fernandez
    Modify dyno procedure to require water temp between 185 and 205, not at specific temps. Require temp to be measured by something other than the car's gauge.
    How about something other than the cars OEM guage.
    I'm fairly confident in my cars Autometer guage.

    And wow, alot of those are mine. Whats up w/ that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
    And wow, alot of those are mine. Whats up w/ that?

    You’re still naive enough to believe it’s a real exercise???


    Richard P.

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