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    Quote Originally Posted by marshall_mosty View Post
    So I'm damned if I do, damed if I don't.... At MSR-C, the lead AI car (not me) who went too slow got chastised for not getting it right and taking too long from boot hill to the green... I tried to pick up the pace for a 2.9 mile outlap to give us more green flag racing instead of having a 5 minute outlap.

    In R1, I did a 3000 rpm in 4th gear outlap and then slowed down in the in T10 (of 15) to 2500rpm in 2nd gear and stayed there for the rest of that outlap until the green. That apparently was too fast for the back of the pack...

    In R3, I did a slower outlap, 2500 rpm in 4th gear until T10, then slowed to 3000 in third. I "did" increase the rpm's by a few hundred (to 3200-3300) once I exited T15 prior to the green... fine, my bad. Shoot me...

    In each race, I did look over my shoulder in the carousel to see how the grid was forming up and it "seemed" to be bunching up to where we "should" be okay over the next five turns and the first part of the front straight.



    You guys put your collective heads together and give the AI guys a guideline. If you want a specific mph, fine... Just tell me what you guys will be comfortable with. I can do whatever is deemed, smart, safe, and not hindering other's ability to form up correctly.
    Jumping in since I led both inverts at MSRC .. R2 was too slow - my bad - understand that situation better now (hence the lessons in inverts?)...I started at 3200 in 2nd but dropped to 2500 through the boot hill complex when I spotted a straggler (the car was just coming to L'il bend) and a fairly big gap in the CMC ranks. That pace allowed the car to catch up and the gap to dissapear but at the same time was too slow for everyone - I was already on the straight heading to the start by the time I saw that everyone was formed up and figured we'd get waved by if I increased the pace.
    R4 I ran at 3200 in second from l'il bend through the start and everyone seemed to be OK with that so unless told otherwise that's what I will do going forward and just let the flagger handle whether the stagger is Ok or not.

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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby marshall_mosty's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchntx View Post
    I just found it odd.

    You certainly didn't drive that fast on the cool-down lap. Why?
    There was no reason to... My car was hot and I was giving it a chance to cool down... Hence "cool down" lap... geez. There is no pleasing some of you guys...
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    I see Todd has gotten to you ... I take back all my apologies.
    Last edited by mitchntx; 05-02-2011 at 06:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchntx View Post
    I see Todd has gotten to you ... I take back all my apologies.
    If that's how you want to be... your choice, not mine...
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    One comment Marshall -
    You are correct that Mitch was able to form-up by T11-T12. I think it is the speed at which he had to run in order to form-up is the issue. Instead of motoring away as soon as you clear the wall, drive pit road speed down the pit road to the end of it. Scrub tires and drag brakes the whole way. Once at the end, pick up the pace to minimize the out lap. We got rid of the pacecar to help w/ this. If we can't manage it, they will force up to use one. Too fast of an outlap could cause us to be waved off and require another outlap. Two 3 minute outlaps = 6 minutes, where as a single 4 minute outlap only costs us 1 minute but could save us 2 minutes. I see it as a fair trade off.

    Mitch, I saw in your vid while you were driving down the pit road you were speeding up and slowing down. I know your heating the pads. Try just dragging the brakes some and maintaining a somewhat faster and more steady speed. I drive pretty much a all the way around dragging the brake while scrubing tires and making sure I'm not getting gapped and I'm Jonny on the spot when it is my turn to complete or start a row for the formation. Steve gapped you some at first. Once to T3, I think you realized you were not making up ground. You can do it however you want, I'm only offering a different method.

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    Can we have some media in this media thread please?

    Boudy

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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby GlennCMC70's Avatar
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    I was just looking for the moderator functions and couldn't find them. I was gonna change the thread title.
    Mitch - can you do it?

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    For TWS especially, what happened to the discussion of not using the back part (outside the oval) and just cut from 3-4 to 9-10? Understandably too late for this event, but maybe future events?
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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby GlennCMC70's Avatar
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    Myself, Marshall and Clifton taked about it Sunday while debating the use of the straight between T2 and T3 for standing starts.

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    Here is a few photos from TWS to use how ever you like........Just uploaded all video from this weekend now to go threw them...I just got done watching my new videographer Gavin video I think I all most laugh as mush as I did Saturday night with the gang

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidgarland/

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