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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby Fbody383's Avatar
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    We rebuilt the rear axles in my M3 - probably had right at 300,000 miles on it at the time. It was either $200 for the rebuild kits or $1200 for replacements.

    You could tell there was some wear on the cages and bearings, which there should have been at that point, but nothing that looked or felt worn.

    Based on that experience, I would say the only reason the cages may get modified at all is to make the reassembly, especially on the blind, or closed axle stub end, easier.

    My early thought is the rule was exploited though I'm not convinced it created an advantage, but my experience is no wear would open up the cage enough for a bearing to pass through. To be fair, the Miata joint could be a different enough design.

    And I can't imagine having to drag a tub onto the open trailer to get the race car home.
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    Anyone know if this was a true competitive advantage over stock parts or just simply not stock parts?

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    Wow...All the issues with the dyno sound pretty good right about now.

    On the mazda racers forum someone referenced an SAE paper that measured efficiency of these types of ball joints at 99.5% at 5 degrees angle. Not sure how much angle an SM puts on these but in any case it aint much.
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    Yeah maybe .13 hp. Maybe they had larger ball bearings? I did read that guys long post last night and it was interesting. You can reman or get reman axles but there isn't a spec on what can be done. Would love to know if it was an actual witch hunt and what the SM communities opinion is of all of this. If I remember even the winner had a DQ for the axles. Good point was asking did the subsequent winner get his axles checked and the same teardown?

    Does anyone know why they even send the Miata's to the dyno? I thought it was basically an unlimited class as far as power and why they spend so much on drivetrain.

    Guess a little different tech than dealing with quarter glass windows.
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    Danny (official winner) put his tub in the trailer with a forklift. Sooo yah he got scrutinized too. But here is SCCA’s response since the runoffs are a couple weeks out.

    https://dk1xgl0d43mu1.cloudfront.net...pdf?1538744727
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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby Fbody383's Avatar
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    Now the tinkering begins in earnest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suck fumes View Post
    Danny (official winner) put his tub in the trailer with a forklift. Sooo yah he got scrutinized too. But here is SCCA’s response since the runoffs are a couple weeks out.

    https://dk1xgl0d43mu1.cloudfront.net...pdf?1538744727
    Good, I’ve got uhhh xfactor axles in my car, guess I can run scca next year if it sticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suck fumes View Post
    Danny (official winner) put his tub in the trailer with a forklift. Sooo yah he got scrutinized too. But here is SCCA’s response since the runoffs are a couple weeks out.

    https://dk1xgl0d43mu1.cloudfront.net...pdf?1538744727
    I've never thought I'd ever give the SCCA praise over doing something better than NASA, but wow, in a few short sentences they just called NASA out on their BS:

    Given recent events, the SCCA CRB makes the following change to the GCR effective
    immediately for the remainder of the 2018 Spec Miata season. The CRB acknowledges that
    Spec Miata OEM, re-manufactured or rebuilt axles do not have a published specification nor
    are the axles a serviceable item. As a follow-up the CRB has asked the SMAC to provide a
    recommendation for 2019 for Spec Miata axles.
    Add to section 9.1.7.C.2
    “i. The half-shaft CV Joints shall be an OEM or OEM equivalent part. The internal cage and
    bearing dimensions are unrestricted. This rule is effective until 12/31/18.”

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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby Supercharged111's Avatar
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    Who in their right mind would cross over to SM in hopes of landing a podium at Nats? Oh wait. . .

    Winching a lifeless car onto the trailer twice was more than enough for me, I can't imagine forklifting the damn thing in. Then you have the devil's own chore of getting it out back home. I think I'll stay right here. The beer is cold and the ribs are delicious.
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