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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby RichardP's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by mach1 View Post
    Boom! $814 shipped from tire rack vs $1100+ for RR's, love it!
    Interesting stuff. I have heard so many times that Toyo is so generous with their contingencies. At first blush it even seems true. But are they really? Does anyone think the cost of the contingency (and all the money paid to NASA as a sponsor/advertiser) is baked into the cost we pay for tires? Of course it is. Itís a business. Toyo isnít a charity with a goal of supporting indigent racers. They are trying to make money.

    So we pay extra for tires with the hope that we can do well enough to get some of it back. More realistically, itís the slower racers that are effectively subsidizing the faster guys. Itís probably a bit more than that, though. Since we are mandated to use these tires, they can charge a bit more than normal market forces would dictate. Actually, itís way worse than that. They have designed the tires so that the only way to realistically get substantial money back is to spend even more money on tires more often. Itís a positive feedback loop with Toyo laughing at us. Itís way more ingenious than just doubling the price and then getting everyone excited about a half off sale.

    Does anyone like to turn in their Toyo bucks? I know I do. Itís like scratching off the last box and finding that you have won $500. You show it off to your friends and they are jealous. No thought is ever given to the fact that your prize came from a stack of scratch offs that you blew $1K on. You donít even care that you didnít actually win anything. You know the fine print on the back says the only thing you can do with your winnings is buy more scratch offs. What else would you do, anyway???

    The good news for those that want to get off of the merry go round for some reason is that you can usually dump your big Toyo prizes on one of your friends for at least $.60 on the dollar. Yeah!


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    Where's the like button.

    Everyone knows the game or should.

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    Food for thought: I heard cost on our RRs is $200/tire (ASSuming this is true). Yes Toyo is a business and businesses are in the business of making money, but they also like writeoffs. . .
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    Michael and Kevin using older tires for non Toyo races is fine but like Richard I want to run as fast as possible in every race. Since I only run two races per weekend one of those will not be a Toyo race. I do not want to run tires that are even half a second slower per lap. Different strokes for different folks. I would like a tire that is slower and would not change from new to corded. I just don't know if there is such a thing.

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    Maybe pre cycled out tires are the answer here.
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    What is the difference in the RT615K and the RT615K+?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercharged111 View Post
    Food for thought: I heard cost on our RRs is $200/tire (ASSuming this is true). Yes Toyo is a business and businesses are in the business of making money, but they also like writeoffs. . .
    $279.05/Tire this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sook View Post
    $279.05/Tire this year.

    - Josh
    Are you joking? Almost $300.00 per tire plus freight for RR's?

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    $278 from Phil's so should include shipping.
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    I don't have answers, but this has been a recurring issue since NASA went to the 888.
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