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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby
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    I don't think the cars are too old either. Look at Miata and Spec E30 then the new class Spec E46 has the same year of cars as my Camaro.
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    This is my 11th year racing CMC splitting driving time with Jay. Last year and this year are the first times I have ever heard CMC drivers talking about running a different class. I know of four drivers thinking about running a different class. This is not good.


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    Well Maxxis doesn't appear to have a contingency this year. Oh well.

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    Whatever the causes (COTA being $$$, tires, cars breaking or not breaking) I just want my mid pack slackers back.

    During race 3 John martin got past me in turn 1 and it became a 30 minute DE session for me because everyone else was gone and it was just me and my thoughts.

    If I gotta start carrying mustang spares to get bigger fields again I'll make something work.

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    Idk if its time to hit the panic button yet. There is another fox under construction currently that should be racing next year. Then we have Mike and GunPilot who are looking like they'll be joining the race group soon. SE46 had 4 cars this weekend, CMC started the weekend with 5. Spec Vette was the surprise of the weekend car count wise but mostly due to the fact that their entire national car count showed up.
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    We gained 5 rookies in less than a year here in RM. Local management took a different approach and it seems to be favoring the race groups. Having another CMC class is not the answer, then you'll just split your car counts between 1 and 2. The newer cars aren't near as dirt cheap as these cars, and as previously pointed out Spec E30 and Spec Miata don't seem to have any trouble attracting people. I think the trouble we face is convincing people to try and take a corner in these buckets or like Bob Denton pointed out downgrading from a newer, faster car you've been DEing in. Dollar per lap time our 260whp stick axle dinosaurs do hustle pretty damn well.
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    1 cota race= 2.5 msrc, msrh, races. Simple economics for me.

    I wonder what TMS will cost?

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    I lived through CMC to CMC2 and back to CMC. I don't EVER want to do that again.

    Cost is everything. The COTA event was too expensive. Just my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Den34 View Post
    I lived through CMC to CMC2 and back to CMC. I don't EVER want to do that again.

    Cost is everything. The COTA event was too expensive. Just my opinion
    I agree we don't need to split the class.

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    What class did spec vette run in? Curious what their lap times were and if anyone talked to them about their tires or how they held up at Cota? Were any races longer did they fall off during the race?

    Already tried to bring in the S197's and lots of testing was done but the gap is too wide. There was a time when I thought everyone was going spec iron but that seems to have fizzled for Nasa and SCCA. I have looked at talked about ASedan racers as their limited prep is close to CMC or used to be until they allowed Spec Mustang and now can run an ASA cam/tuning for 385 rwhp (not the direction I want to go). Too bad if it could be an option like Miata's doing both nasa/scca. I think that is a huge lure for those cars since the classes are strong in both and you can run more events at the same tracks. But maybe an option to get some Asedan guys to come run with us?
    Jander-you are real interested in bringing new racers over and good with Will. What about doing some incentive program to give an SCCA ASedan racer half off entry to first NASA event?

    Losing TWS hurt not just from having two events there a year but people doing other events, DE, etc. there helped NASA in my opinion. Getting ECR online and I'm thinking with the prep they are doing it should be a pretty good track.

    Personally I lack interest in COTA at $1,200 and TMS for whatever it is in August. If I'm racing in August it will be in RM.

    Records is right about not hitting the panic button. I know of a couple other CMC cars that should be for sale this summer that haven't been raced for years could help. A better schedule next year would help too.

    The CMC ruleset not changing much for several years is huge as well. I am in favor of doing things that don't give advantages but provide better durability/dependability like allowing an option to replace the opti on LT1's.

    But the biggest thing that we could help change or decide to change on our own is the tire issue. Find a tire as quick as the Falken that doesn't drop off for 3 events for under $1k for a set and the class improves no doubt in my mind. Only seems to be a few who argue that tires don't hurt our participation but it's not just showing up. It also hurts because a guy on an older set of tires knows he is going to be a second to seconds slower only due to tires and if on old tires you are going to have to work on setup changes that screw your car up when you put on new tires.

    I think it would especially help new people looking at the series or who have just joined to be able to do more practice/DE days on the same tires we race on but not have to spend an extra few thousand that year to help get up to speed.
    Bryan Leinart
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