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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowBolt View Post
    You guys are way off base. I thought the new owner would have chimed in by now.

    I wonder if Jeff still has that car and why he has not sold it if he does indeed still have it? I think he still works at Dell and lives in Round Rock. Does anyone here still talk to him? I have an e-mail address but have not talked to him in about five years.


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    I picked up Steve Mulders 4th Gen Camaro.

    I tried years ago to buy Wirtz but he wasn't interested. Heard a comment around the track one day a year or so ago that someone new was getting Wirtz car but no idea if that ever happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanL View Post
    I picked up Steve Mulders 4th Gen Camaro.

    I tried years ago to buy Wirtz but he wasn't interested. Heard a comment around the track one day a year or so ago that someone new was getting Wirtz car but no idea if that ever happened.
    Nice... it is a good car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sook View Post
    Did you guys get a second car?
    Not hardly. I can't keep the one we have running.


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    Wirtz car is still in Wirtz's hands. I have a buddy who knows Wirtz that has gone back and forth about getting it, but it is still a CMC1 spec so it needs everything except the tub and cage. He says that is a lot of money to drop to "only" have 260 HP. He'd be better suited to AI or AIX, but the fields are too small.

    Jerry, are you talking about Nick Runyon's old car? If I recall, it made a couple of track appearances around 2013 and then disappeared?
    Or...I have been out of the loop for a Looong time, didn't someone recently pick up Kellam's car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade View Post
    Wirtz car is still in Wirtz's hands. I have a buddy who knows Wirtz that has gone back and forth about getting it, but it is still a CMC1 spec so it needs everything except the tub and cage. He says that is a lot of money to drop to "only" have 260 HP. He'd be better suited to AI or AIX, but the fields are too small.

    Jerry, are you talking about Nick Runyon's old car? If I recall, it made a couple of track appearances around 2013 and then disappeared?
    Or...I have been out of the loop for a Looong time, didn't someone recently pick up Kellam's car?
    Jeff's car would only have 230hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade View Post
    Wirtz car is still in Wirtz's hands. I have a buddy who knows Wirtz that has gone back and forth about getting it, but it is still a CMC1 spec so it needs everything except the tub and cage. He says that is a lot of money to drop to "only" have 260 HP. He'd be better suited to AI or AIX, but the fields are too small.

    Jerry, are you talking about Nick Runyon's old car? If I recall, it made a couple of track appearances around 2013 and then disappeared?
    Or...I have been out of the loop for a Looong time, didn't someone recently pick up Kellam's car?
    Urbanski bought both of those cars. He sold Runyons car I believe going to Kansas and now he is running Kellams.

    Man the dyno on Steve's LT1 looks awesome so I'll be questioning whether I swap it in the fall. Anyone want to buy a white LS1 CMC Camaro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanL View Post
    Urbanski bought both of those cars. He sold Runyons car I believe going to Kansas and now he is running Kellams.

    Man the dyno on Steve's LT1 looks awesome so I'll be questioning whether I swap it in the fall. Anyone want to buy a white LS1 CMC Camaro?
    Since when does any LT1 dyno look awesome? All of them I have seen peak out the torque long before getting good horsepower. I completely opened the exhaust and it had no effect. The OEM CAM is just wrong for 260/310. If it does have a good ratio I'd bet it has a cheater CAM in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWiseman View Post
    Since when does any LT1 dyno look awesome? All of them I have seen peak out the torque long before getting good horsepower. I completely opened the exhaust and it had no effect. The OEM CAM is just wrong for 260/310. If it does have a good ratio I'd bet it has a cheater CAM in it.

    Craig W.
    If you could lower the total output somehow other than a restrictor it'd be spot on. Mine peaks on the Dyno as soon as I crack the gas. Unrestricted torque peaks a in the 4000 range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercharged111 View Post
    If you could lower the total output somehow other than a restrictor it'd be spot on. Mine peaks on the Dyno as soon as I crack the gas. Unrestricted torque peaks a in the 4000 range.
    Mine peaks at 3000, torque down there is only usable on the standing starts. If I restrict to keep torque at 310 I only get 253 HP. If I let the torque go to 315 it will get near 260, but then we have to pile on the ballast and tear up the tires even faster. Kinda defeats the tiny driver advantage. Currently using a 36mm restrictor. unrestricted it is like 289 HP. Now if we could run Mustang weights I'd have no issue with 253/310.

    I do think the LS 5.3 iron block is the only good setup for the Camaros. The aluminum block LS cars lap times drop off at the end of the races lots more than the Mustangs. To beat the mustangs you have to start up front, put down qualifying times and then block. Perfect example is Hallett. Michael Mostey is great there and if he is behind a Camaro at the end he will usually win. The Camaro will be sliding all over the place, and Michael will still have enough tires to dance that little Mustang around the final curves.

    I see the tires from Dan's and Josh's cars. Dan's are used up after a weekend and only good for practice, Josh can run his two sometimes three weekends. Heather puts lots of heat cycles on mine, but doesn't scrub the rubber off like Dan does. Josh can use Heather's tires on the Mustang and still get some good times out of them, after he knocks the hard layer off the top.

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