2013 CMC rules are posted

[Fbody383]

Linky to 2013 Changes

First, thanks to Al, Glenn, and the rest of the CMC Directors for giving their time so we can do this.

The commentary on minimum weight for 4th gens was interesting since I've come off track, not fuel starving at 3185 or so. I guess the good news is now I am "greatly encouraged" to add subframe connectors since it will be low weight that I need anyway.

Will the S197 cars have engine reliability issues getting down to the new HP/TQ levels?

What's the 3 year plan if the new tire really is that much stickier and stock brakes won't compete with the 4 pots?

Regardless, the plan is to have the car at dyno day and on the grid at Houston.

[ShadowBolt]

Linky to 2013 Changes

Regardless, the plan is to have the car at dyno day and on the grid at Houston.

I plan to be right beside you.....or I hope, in front of you.

JJ

[Al Fernandez]

Come on James, the change to CMC2 for you was a couple of sets of wheels, a one time cost. Sure, brake pads and tires cost more nowadays, but thats because you guys drive too fast. If you slowed down to 8/10ths you'd be on one set of tires all year!

David...I'm not happy about the prospects of the RR...I dont see it doing anything favorable, but thats just my opinion

[GlennCMC70]

Weight changes for 2013.
It was my understanding that the Fords didn't change and the GM's went up by 50lbs. Did someone say above that the Fords went down 50 and the GM's went up 50lbs?

[Daniel Allford]

They cost $2k BUT my pad usage is way down. And my rotor usage is zero. With stock stuff we were cracking rotors in 1 event and replacing them when they cracked to the edge every 3 weekends.

And they do stop better, even if you cant tell it when Im driving

Dan #82

[michaelmosty]

They cost $2k BUT my pad usage is way down. And my rotor usage is zero. With stock stuff we were cracking rotors in 1 event and replacing them when they cracked to the edge every 3 weekends.

And they do stop better, even if you cant tell it when Im driving

Dan #82

I completely agree. I have run the StopTechs for exactly 2 years now and have saved $500 in rotors alone. I would have saved $$ on the pads as well but PFC has jacked up their pad pricing for the StopTechs a ton over the last 2 years. I will likely be switching to another pad that is about 1/2 the price of the PFC's during the middle of next season.

[Rsmith350]

Weight changes for 2013.
It was my understanding that the Fords didn't change and the GM's went up by 50lbs. Did someone say above that the Fords went down 50 and the GM's went up 50lbs?

I did, going back to fact check now......yup,fact checked! Camaro gained 50, mustang lost 50.....apparently we're just gonna keep handicapping the fourth gen until a mustang wins! Can I sign up to make the trophy for Mosty?!

[michaelmosty]

I did, going back to fact check now......yup,fact checked! Camaro gained 50, mustang lost 50.....apparently we're just gonna keep handicapping the fourth gen until a mustang wins! Can I sign up to make the trophy for Mosty?!

Ross, the Mustang did not change weight from last year. It appears different b/c it "now" says the Fox drops 150 lbs from the table listed (instead of 100 lbs from last year). The change was because the base weight was changed from 3200 to 3250 lbs. In short my car min weight was 3100 lbs. last year and also for next year.

[Rsmith350]

Apparently I suck at math

[Fbody383]

Come on James, the change to CMC2 for you was a couple of sets of wheels, a one time cost. Sure, brake pads and tires cost more nowadays...

What's the one time cost of 2 sets of 17's and brakes, $3k?

David...I'm not happy about the prospects of the RR...I dont see it doing anything favorable, but thats just my opinion

Faster cars just means we wear out or brake stuff faster and I'm not sure I can consistently use all the grip of an RA1.

... LT1 restricted... LS1 restricted...

Didn't the LS motors have issues at 230hp? Maybe the S197 restriction is slight enough that it's not an issue. We don't need another fight around that.

And, I hope that we see the Fox/SN95 cars improve a little statistically overall relative to the other chassis; what's the clawback plan if it's truly clear that the rules went too far? I think rewards weight for the Show Ponies are in order...