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[Trublu]

That sounds good to me.

I'd be all over that, makes perfect sense to me

[GlennCMC70]

I pushed for this for a few years. This real hurdle is the year we transition over. We either run a short season, or a long one to get it started.

I think the bigger issue is a season that changes as it goes. It needs to be firm early on and stay that way. Makes it hard to points race that way.

[mach1]

Does NASA hate us? Always trying to do things different, Hallett for nats, different season, me e-mailing Will bitching about TNT @ TWS, etc. Or are all of the race groups this way?

[Fbody383]

This real hurdle is the year we transition over. We either run a short season, or a long one to get it started.

Not necessarily, it's just math. We just have to make it clear that certain races could count towards points in two different seasons.

I agree it is much better if it would be stable for a couple "seasons" worth.

Or are all of the race groups this way?

I believe the season definition was our group's way of saying what worked for us. The 'voices' of Hallett for Nats is the recognition that we have had good voluntary CMC fields for a region race-could we get more cars out of the shadows for an official CMC nationals.

No, I don't think NASA even goes so far to dislike us.

[GlennCMC70]

Some things were more stable in the past. We have had 2 different "owners" in a few short years. Each w/ a goal to make it "theirs". Add in the TWS "closing" and ECR repaving that should have happened over the summer and got pushed back, things can get odd.
Unless NASA rents the track for Friday, they don't have any say in the TNT.
No way Hallett will work for Nats - too small of a facility. Go to a Nats, and see how big it is. Even TWS would be borderline size wise. Don't even get me started on the facilities for TWS or Hallett. Can't imagine what the bathrooms would look like after a week of folks camping there @ the track. The lines for a shower would be crazy. Hotels are non-existent for Hallett. TWS would be borderline if a game was in town.

[GlennCMC70]

Not necessarily, it's just math. We just have to make it clear that certain races could count towards points in two different seasons.

That was an option I offered.
How do you work the issue of the required number of racers to qualify for Nats? If the season starts after Nat's, do we just use the Jan-June/July races?

I'm on your side, but make sure we see the whole picture.

[Supercharged111]

Having never been, I can't say, but CMC is only 1 class compared to all the classes converging on a normal national event.

[RichardP]

No way Hallett will work for Nats - too small of a facility. Go to a Nats, and see how big it is.

I don't think anyone is calling for Hallett to be Nationals for NASA. I think the call is for Hallett to be the Nation Championship for CMC.

It would be cool to win the CMC National Championship at the actual NASA Nationals but most of the time there isn't even enough participation to keep the class from being canceled. There certainly isn't a good representation of top CMC drivers from multiple regions at Nationals. And yet, there is Hallett, with lots of top CMC drivers from multiple regions every year. We even use the championship format. Sounds like a Championship event to me...

When was the last time you were at a national event? They used to be a big deal. I don't think they are that big anymore, either...

Richard P.

[GlennCMC70]

I also don't see this split Nats lasting much longer. You split car count and double the venue costs. I don't see the upside.
The first NASA Nat's will always be my favorite by a long shot. Even though I didn't win one until the 3rd and 4th one. 25 cars (where is JB?) in CMC and most of us didn't know each other at all. It was great. There was more shit talking before the event than I have ever seen among CMC racers since. It was great.
Wish I could find the fuzzy math post where I predicted the new Mid Ohio lap record based on the current local CMC regions record and only missed it by a tenth.

[RichardP]

That was an option I offered.
How do you work the issue of the required number of racers to qualify for Nats? If the season starts after Nat's, do we just use the Jan-June/July races?

I'm on your side, but make sure we see the whole picture.

The other part of the picture is the rules. They come out late in the calendar year so that people have plenty of time to get their cars ready for the next season (well, except when they come out late, after our season has started...). Do we change rules in the middle of our season? Hold off on the rules changes until our next season starts. What about people who come from out of region? What rules do they have to follow?


Richard P.