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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby marshall_mosty's Avatar
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    Everyone also needs to look at what those are doing up front. I believe (Craig, correct me if I'm wrong), but the podium 'Stangs are on fresh sticker rubber every Saturday morning, with those fresh tires only making it to Practice of the following event...

    How "fresh" are the tires the 4th gen crew of cars are using.

    I know CMC should be a budget series, but as long as those with the ability and desire to run fresh rubber each weekend, you are bringing a knife to a gun fight if you think a 10+ heat cycle tire will be able to get you on the podium.

    Just my 0.02.
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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby GlennCMC70's Avatar
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    Time to change tires then.
    We have some many rules in place that are there for no other reason that to stop folks from spending. Why are tire not that way.

    I want 2005 CMC back.

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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennCMC70 View Post
    Time to change tires then.
    We have some many rules in place that are there for no other reason that to stop folks from spending. Why are tire not that way.

    I want 2005 CMC back.
    Let's run ra1's, contingencies stay the same.
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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby RichardP's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennCMC70 View Post
    I want 2005 CMC back.
    There were still issues back then. The rules were definitely against Fox Mustangs at that point. The track width was still governed by factory bodywork and all the Mustangs ran at the same weight. That put the narrow Fox Mustangs at a distinct disadvantage. Here is a thread I posted in 2007 requesting weight compensation for Foxes because of this issue:

    http://www.aicmctexas.com/showthread...ight-reduction

    Almost a decade later, Fox Mustangs have a weight advantage but don't have a track width disadvantage. There are some small technical differences between Fox and other Mustangs but I don't see any performance reason for the weight discrepancy???

    Meanwhile, my efforts to have track width governed by a number rather than bodywork seems to have backfired (The doesn't mean that I think using a number is the wrong answer). Reducing the track width of F-bodies was one of the changes implemented in 2013 to help out the Mustangs. The Orange Camaro is now over 1.5" narrower than it was when the bodywork governed the track width...


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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby Fbody383's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshall_mosty View Post
    How "fresh" are the tires the 4th gen crew of cars are using.
    Depends on the race. I like to tire up for Hallett.

    Quote Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
    I want 2005 CMC back.
    Brake genie is out of the bottle. From a total/long-term cost perspective everybody seems to like the big brake value. I don't want to make the outlay. From a raceability perspective it seems to be an advantage in feel, fade, power, etc.

    To me the opening question stands - are the rules currently "equitable" in the spirit/intent of CMC?

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    Senior Member Carroll Shelby AllZWay's Avatar
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    This tire sounds like a complete debacle. No way in this series should you have to run new tires every race just to be competitive.
    Last edited by AllZWay; 10-24-2016 at 12:48 PM.

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