Fox chassis guys

[K Shaw]

Looking at a 84 Roller and wanted to see if/what extra parts you guys have lying around.

Still new to the area and have not tapped into the parts pool yet.

Car is actually a GT turbo with out a title and the head has been off the car for 5-6 years with alot of pitting onthe cyl walls. Was thinking it would make a great shell for a CMC car build. Hate to do that to a GT turbo however I figure turning it into a race car is better than sitting and rusting away or going to the JY.

kyle

[Rob Liebbe]

One of the limitations will be wheel clearances and track width. The '84 was designed around a 14" wheel and tire package so fender clearance would be an issue especially when moving into CMC2 tire sizing. Although in CMC2 you can flare the fenders. The '84 might have the 7.5" axle and would need to be replaced.

I just "retired" my Fox and the new build is a 94 body. They can be found relatively cheaply. I even know of one south of Austin. Ping David Donovan on this forum. (Sorry David, I sourced a body in Houston - forgot to tell you.)

[K Shaw]

The rear quarter panels should be the same however the front fenders changed in 90 or 91 to accomodate the 16inch pony wheels. No big deal.

I have had a GT turbo in the past along with a slew of SVOs and the SVOs ran 16 inch wheels in 84 however they had different fenders.

Still has the 7.5 in the back along with the 4 cyl T5 trans. No biggie I know of several 5.0 mustangs running the 4 cyl trans with out any issues. You just need a diesel ranger TO bearing.

It will have the small 10inch brakes on the front and drums in the back. Other than the 2.3t power plant it is just a 84 GT.

kyle

[michaelmosty]

Kyle, if you are starting from scratch I would definitely go with the SN95. The only way I would consider the fox is if it was free.

The SN95 has so many advantages that could end up saving you money on the final build price. It is better for track width and aerodynamically but will also come with the 8.8 rear end with wide axles and rear disc brakes. Also the wider front control arms.

The track width max can be had on the fox but you will need to do a fair amount of body work to get the 72.5" max front track width. I thankfully have my dad that can help w/ bondo and paint.

[cjlmlml]

I know a guy with a fox coupe cage installed, has all the griggs suspension on it , coilovers etc, k member etc etc,

A project that was started and never finished.


You could probably get cheap.

PM me if interested

[cobra132]

I didn't know Lyons was selling his car???

[RichardP]

The only way I would consider the fox is if it was free.

The SN95 has so many advantages that could end up saving you money on the final build price.

Free wouldn't be good enough for me to consider a Fox, especially an older one like that. By the time you got done being nickeled and dimed to death replacing every part to competitive or even useable stuff you will easily have spent more money and time than if you started with a SN95.


Richard P.

[K Shaw]

So what your saying is that the "new" rules and CMC2 have made the fox cars obsolete?

I am still a fox guy. Grew up with them and lusted over them when they where new and on the show room floor. Loved reading about the SVO's and Nelson ledges and then Saleen and the escort series.

hmm. Oh and the car is really cheap. Think like 3 tanks of diesel fuel for my dodge cheap.

kyle

[Rob Liebbe]

I prefer Fox bodies as well. Heck, if i wasn't this deep in Mustang parts, I'd consider building a 4th gen Camaro.

Three tanks of Diesel is almost $250 now.

Go SN95 - Contact David Donovan.

[RichardP]

So what your saying is that the "new" rules and CMC2 have made the fox cars obsolete?


No. Not at all. You can legally make a fox competitive in CMC and CMC2. You do that by replacing everything but the tub with SN95 parts.


Richard P.

[ShadowBolt]

Heck, if i wasn't this deep in Mustang parts, I'd consider building a 4th gen Camaro.


That easy to drive?

Now why would a devout Ford guy want to build a 4th gen?


JJ

[K Shaw]

So what your saying is that the "new" rules and CMC2 have made the fox cars obsolete?


No. Not at all. You can legally make a fox competitive in CMC and CMC2. You do that by replacing everything but the tub with SN95 parts.


Richard P.

Yeah I was trying to be funny making a half hearted stab at the rules and where CMC is going and forgot the smiley icon.

Thunderbird T-coupe control arms are the same length as sn95 as is the 8.8 in them. If you know where to look some of the stuff can be found for cheap. I just dont know where to look down here in Texas.

kyle

[RichardP]

Thunderbird T-coupe control arms are the same length as sn95


Control arms are hard to measure but the general thought is that they are a little bit longer. Regardless, unless they are functionally identical (more than the same length), they aren't part number legal.

Just because parts are cheap and a logical swap doesn't mean you can use them. There have been several cases where specific parts from other applications have been submitted and approved for use. If you wanted these control arms to be legal you could try submitting the idea...


Richard P.

[edrock96GT]

I have a stock '96 K member and control arms taking up space in my garage. :)

[evarner]

Check out my ad for the '85 Coupe. With a few modifications and safety additions, it's defintitely a mid to front pack car out of the gate.