Renegade Race Report

[Mike Bell]

OK, since we don't seem to have any "official race report" anymore I was hoping some of you could email me your version of the most recent race weekend and I'll put together the outlaw, renegade version of a race writeup together. Pics such as the "Joe Dirt Vert" would be appreciated.

Send me a brief summary of R1-R4 from your perspective noting any "exceptional" on-track events. I'll try and crank it out by next week.
Email to mike dot bell at bns-racing dot com. Thanks.

[CMC17]

I'm game and will send some drama...er racing documentation your way. :D

[marshall_mosty]

Mike,
Email sent.

[AI#97]

first off, congratulations to team Pederson/Marvel for an outstanding Season in the Texas American Iron Championship...it was a hard fought battle down to the last race and you guys deserve the fruits of the many years of your efforts.

As for AI#97, The weekend finished up with 1 pole (in the rain), 2 wins and 2 seconds and a season finish just 20 points behind the championship team.

Saturday Race 1 had me stuffed in turn one and the leading 2 AI cars running away on lap #1. I fought hard to get back to the front but a bad tire choice cost me about 1.5 seconds per lap in the effort to run the overall leader down and I ended up in Second place.

Saturday Race 2 had the grid inverted from R1 finishing positions and again after getting stuck in T1 behind a slower car, the chase was on to get back to the front. After about 4 laps, I had passed all of the American Iron field and set my sights on the lone AIX car for the overall lead. With 2 laps remaining, I passed him going into the Bus Stop and took not only First on the AI podium but the overall win for the AI/AIX/CMC race and the much needed 10 point gain on the season leader.

Sunday Qualifying was dismal with heavy rains falling and a VERY wet and slick track with standing puddles everywhere! On lap 2 a car went off in the mud and had to get yanked out. I made a mistake and passed someone just as the yellows came out, but proceeded on till the end of the session. Results had me on the pole however, my times were DQ'd and I was sent to the back of the 20 car field.

Sunday Race 1, with a rolling start from the back of the grid with a still damp track, AI #97 came to life with a mission at hand. By the end of the second lap, I had passed all of the CMC field and most of the American Iron field and was working diligently to chase down the points leader who had a comfortable 1/2 mile lead. 9 laps later the checkered flag fell with AI #97 in second place overall just 1.9 seconds behind the AI leader in what was heralded as the drive of the weekend from all competitors. AI#97 set the fast AI lap of the weekend of 1:45.3, just shy of a track record. The stands were going wild with the clinic of skill that was put on to show that V8 Muscle Car racing in Texas is where the action is at!

Sunday Race 2, was a rolling inverted grid yet again and by lap 3, AI #97 had made it to the front again. A couple cars made it off course for a full course caution and upon the restart the race was on. Dave Irwin and Dave Capps in their FR500C clones were hot in the chase setting their fastest laps of the weekend each. The white flag was shown and Irwin was going for broke and had a great drag race with #97 going into turn 3 with the cars neck and neck going DEEP into the braking zone and with just inches between the cars and AI #97 on the inside emerged from turn 6 in the lead and stayed there through the remaining 10 turns and on to the checkered flag for the second win of the weekend.


Season recap for AI #97 resulted in 8 wins, 20 total podiums in 21 races with just one DNF.....all in my rookie season. I want to thank those that stood behind me throughout the season, most notably VT Engines for the badass motor and to HPP Racing for the support and tuning to keep the car at the front all year. I also want to thank Maximum Motorsports for the great suspension pieces that turned the car into a corner carving Monster.

[Mike Bell]

Thanks for the quick responses and pics sent already guys. Anyone having any "ON TRACK" photos they can share would be greatly appreciated. :) :) :)

I know most of us are busy driving the cars but if someone had a friend or significant other taking snapshots of the action please pass them along and keep the weekend notes coming! :D

[AllZWay]

My race report would be very easy.

My very first time on track for first practice.... car got hot at 260+ after it blew a radiator hose and lost all the water.

Refilled with water and re-tightened hose and went out for Qualifying. Only made a few laps and was too hot again. Radiator cracked and lost all of the water again.

I tired a quick repair of the radiator and refilled and bled the system just barely in time for R1.

R1....got overheated again and cracked the radiator worse and lost water again.

Morgan loaned me a radiator for R2. I replaced it and went out for R2, but it overheated again after several laps and decided to park it for the weekend.

I think it must be a blown head gasket or warped head as a result of the first overheating of the day.

So a pretty crappy first weekend for this rookie.

[AI#97]

Thanks for the quick responses and pics sent already guys. Anyone having any "ON TRACK" photos they can share would be greatly appreciated. :) :) :)

I know most of us are busy driving the cars but if someone had a friend or significant other taking snapshots of the action please pass them along and keep the weekend notes coming! :D

I think I have a couple at the house I will send out tonight!

[oz98cobra]

Leah was running around with the camera trackside and in the pits all weekend, so I'll send you some pics and some words from my point of view tonight.

[Rob Liebbe]

My weekend:

Practice - really slow, like I was lost

Qual 1 - picked up some time and qualified 4th.

Race 1 - got stuck behind two AI (Lyons and another) cars that tangled in turn 1 on the start and watched almost the entire field go past - bummer. Finished 7th.

Race 2 - runnin' mid-pack and got black-flagged for not putting my window net up - big bummer but got to do a wicked burnout in the hot pits!!!

Saturday night - enjoyed the video watchin' and shrimp eatin', didn't enjoy the cold, rainy, mosquito infested, Todd-snoring tent experience quite as much.

Qual 2 - didn't run in the rain

Race 3 - started near the back - finished 8th

Race 4 - running in 4th behind Eric and trying to give him a hard time but couldn't really. We were watching Todd chase Jeff from a distance when Todd lost it into the mud at turn 16 giving us a long yellow and had to wait nervously as the rest of the pack was catching hoping I could hold on to third place once we went green again. Placed third - woohooo podium!!!! Somehow I missed out on the trophy, the girls, and the champagne spray - bummer.

Memorable moments -

Hounding Boudy for a few laps - long enough to start wondering what all the lights on his dashboard were for.

Pressuring Morgan untill he lost it in turn 3 - two different times.

Wondering why Glenn was passing me in the grass with the wheels locked going into turn 16 - luckily it turn out ok.

Watching the US Air Force Thunderbirds flying at Ellington Field while we were cruising around under yellow in R4.

FUN FUN FUN

[Mike Bell]

Yeah guys, great idea! Don't email me your stuff like I asked, just post it all up here save me the effort of putting together a race report. :roll:

I'd rather read it here first. :wink:

I'll put the pics received in the gallery. :)

[CMC17]

Yeah guys, great idea! Don't email me your stuff like I asked, just post it all up here save me the effort of putting together a race report. :roll:

I'd rather read it here first. :wink:

I'll put the pics received in the gallery. :)

Ugh! What do we do with the stuff we were putting together now? Still want the e-mail?

[Mike Bell]

Yeah guys, great idea! Don't email me your stuff like I asked, just post it all up here save me the effort of putting together a race report. :roll:

I'd rather read it here first. :wink:

I'll put the pics received in the gallery. :)

Ugh! What do we do with the stuff we were putting together now? Still want the e-mail?

Post it up here! That's what everyone else is doing, poor man's race report. Works for me!

[mitchntx]

Mike, maybe the reason race reports haven't been very timely is not the fault of the editor, rather the fault of the contributors.

Waiting on data to come in from all sources and via e-mail, web-mail, forum posts, snail mail, carrier pigeon and pony express has some built in delays.

Also, I think most folks don't realize that in order for a RR to be thorough and factual, a lot of view points have to submitted. A single person can't be every where at all times.

So the fault actually lies with the contributors and not necessarily the editor.

JMHO

[CMC17]

The directions asked for the submissions to be sent via e-mail and not posted here. :wink:

[Mike Bell]

But there ARE NO LONGER ANY REPORTS BEING DONE. So, in my simplistic opinion, timeliness is no longer an issue to consider. They quit being done at all.

TC and AG somehow used their magic powers to take a race weekend and turn it into a report - when they did them. I'm not sure how many contributions they received or the accuracy of them.

I spent 3 hours last night just trying to get my mind around the order of events, much less sorting through fact/fiction/opinion. True, the Trick-or-Treaters kept interrupting my train of thought but hey, that's what "Door Duty" does to Dads lol. I was already having difficulty resolving a few events/reports/recollections.

Conclusion: My "Renegade Race Report" wasn't going to have much more than what was sent to me. Since some guys have posted their input here instead of emailing it to me, why not just let this be the vehicle. That way I don't get caught up in the fact/fiction/opinion debacle. Since whatever I produced wasn't going to GRM anyways, this is just as good of a way to handle it IMHO.

After each race weekend we can start a thread called "Renegade Race Report" and everyone who wants can post up their version of the weekend for the racers only to read.

[jeffburch]

Thanks Mike for taking this on.
I appreciate any volunteer efforts.
This is the spirit that must catch fire in order for us to continue to grow, IMO.
This web site, driver fund, banquet, race reports, year end vids and not to mention our directors benefit us all.
If you see something that needs help with pitch in.
On a negative note; we were asked for input on the Nats report but have never seen anything. :cry:
I hope there is something in GRM, but not expecting anything other than what Robert is doing.

Thank You All.
jb

[mitchntx]

They quit being done at all.

<snip>

TC and AG somehow used their magic powers to take a race weekend and turn it into a report

<snip>

I spent 3 hours last night just trying to get my mind around the order of events, much less sorting through fact/fiction/opinion


And I think you have captured the reasons why there are no longer any reports being done.

Time and help.

[Mike Bell]

No thanks needed. I want to see a report like the rest of you guys. Been too long without one. 8)

But if the submissions I receive have already been posted in here (Read: Matt and Rob, lol) then what's the real point/benefit to the group?? :?:

Proctor gets a free pass because a.) he's new and b.) he had not much to report but some bad radiator action and overheating and c.) I like him. :lol: :lol:

I have benefitted from NASA TX's efforts for 4 years now and given little back in return. Is it too selfish to ask that the help I give be of SOME VALUE???

Don't post your report in here, email it to me, mmkay Rob and Matt? TYVM.

edit: OK, someone hand me a feminine napkin, it's bleeding again. WAAAAAAHHHHH!

[Adam Ginsberg]

Folks have a rather short memory span, it seems.....

In 2006, Todd and I did all the writeups up to and including Hallett, and Skip deserves a great deal of credit for helping us out. Only one report ( MSR in March ) was later than the 2 week time frame we committed to at the 2005 banquet.

Mike - the 3 hours you spent working on the MSR-H writeup is less than 1/6th the time we regularly utilized to get one completed and published. 20-25 hours is the norm, when using our standard format ( and that's probably underestimated ).

This is going to sound a bit like sour grapes...but I'm going to say it anyway. There was little appreciation shown to the directors regarding many items, especially the writeups. Complaints about timeliness ( not an issue in '06 ), accuracy, sponsor information/spelling, pictures, etc, all negatively impacted our enthusiasm. However, they still were done.

Prior to the August TWS event, NASA Texas insisted on having responsibility for race writeups. TWS ( August ) and MSR-H ( October ) were/are supposed to be written and published by NASA Texas.

If any of you are dissatisfied with the timeliness and/or lack of race writeups, please contact Shannon and/or NASA Texas.

[Mike Bell]

Folks have a rather short memory span, it seems.....

In 2006, Todd and I did all the writeups up to and including Hallett, and Skip deserves a great deal of credit for helping us out. Only one report ( MSR in March ) was later than the 2 week time frame we committed to at the 2005 banquet.

Mike - the 3 hours you spent working on the MSR-H writeup is less than 1/6th the time we regularly utilized to get one completed and published. 20-25 hours is the norm, when using our standard format ( and that's probably underestimated ).

This is going to sound a bit like sour grapes...but I'm going to say it anyway. There was little appreciation shown to the directors regarding many items, especially the writeups. Complaints about timeliness ( not an issue in '06 ), accuracy, sponsor information/spelling, pictures, etc, all negatively impacted our enthusiasm. However, they still were done.

Prior to the August TWS event, NASA Texas insisted on having responsibility for race writeups. TWS ( August ) and MSR-H ( October ) were/are supposed to be written and published by NASA Texas.

If any of you are dissatisfied with the timeliness and/or lack of race writeups, please contact Shannon and/or NASA Texas.

AG, thanks for the insight. I've got a short AND selective memory. Sorry if I wasn't enthusiastic enough for all of the effort you and TC put into them. I was remiss in not mentioning Skip - thanks again to all 3 of you for your efforts.

Since we haven't seen a race report for this group since Hallett I've offered to do a Renegade version. Not sure if it'll go any further than this board but I'll post up the resulting document.

The 3 hours I quoted earlier in this thread was by no means an indication of total work effort to complete. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that point. I don't plan on spending 20-25 hours on it, I'll pass it along to another set of eyes for suggestions and proofing however.

BTW, one of your previous reports has been a great benefit to me in generating a "renegade" version for October's event. :wink:

[CMC17]

Where's the NPR write-up?

[Adam Ginsberg]

Where's the NPR write-up?

<sigh>

Attached.

[CMC17]

It comes up with "Two Weeks" as the header/body

thx ;)

[AI#97]

No thanks needed. I want to see a report like the rest of you guys. Been too long without one. 8)

But if the submissions I receive have already been posted in here (Read: Matt and Rob, lol) then what's the real point/benefit to the group?? :?:

Proctor gets a free pass because a.) he's new and b.) he had not much to report but some bad radiator action and overheating and c.) I like him. :lol: :lol:

I have benefitted from NASA TX's efforts for 4 years now and given little back in return. Is it too selfish to ask that the help I give be of SOME VALUE???

Don't post your report in here, email it to me, mmkay Rob and Matt? TYVM.

edit: OK, someone hand me a feminine napkin, it's bleeding again. WAAAAAAHHHHH!

sorry mike, I cut and pasted that on my usual sites within a couple days after the race. Just didn't feel like going to the trouble of clicking and extra button or two!

Besides, when have I ever done things the way they were asked?! :P

And yes, oh this hurts to say....Adam is right. :shock: We need to address our concerns with the write ups with Shannon. They are now a NASATX responsibility as she advertised with regards to her father taking over the reins on write ups. Again, let's make sure we are communicating DIRECTLY with her and NOT assuming she reads all this. Or, we employ Todd as the remaining director to fight that battle...?

[Rob Liebbe]

Sorry for the wrong post placement - I'll try better next time.


Now grow a set and get rid of the maxi's!!!!!!!

[Mike Bell]

Now grow a set and get rid of the maxi's!!!!!!!

Rob,

Let me be really really clear: PISS OFF. Got it? Good.

[mitchntx]

You gonna take that crap Rob?

http://amicalementvost.free.fr/CatBoxing.jpg

[mitchntx]

You gonna take that crap Rob?

http://amicalementvost.free.fr/CatBoxing.jpg

[Rob Liebbe]

OK - bike racks - three o'clock - you're goin' down Mr. Bell!!!!!!!!!

[AI#97]

You gonna take that crap Rob?

http://amicalementvost.free.fr/CatBoxing.jpg

Ok Mitch, I have an internet porn collection from college of nearly 10k pictures of naked women and that is probably a low guess.... Do you have a similar number of cat pictures or what?! :P

Where do you find this stuff?!! :D

[marshall_mosty]

R1 highlights
A strong qualifying run put Marshall’s #67 “Firestone Racing” Mustang sixth on grid and 4th in class. A strong run trying to keep up with the top 3 cars put #67 at an interesting advantage. An out of class Mazda destroyed a transmission going into “gut check” and proceeded to spill oil over half the race track, on the racing line!!! Thanks to “Boudy”, the majority of the field was utilizing radios to hear what ended up being very important safety broadcast information. After receiving the “oil on track” transmission, Mosty looked hard for the glint of oil on the track. Seeing the slick line appeared proved to be key in keeping the Mustang on track. Dave Irwin in the second ’05 Mustang entry couldn’t react fast enough to the oil on the track going trough T16 and spun off track into the mud. This gave 3rd place, “Toyo Bucks” position to Mosty.


R2 highlights
Race 2 was an inverted rolling start based on R1 finishing order. Mosty raced hard and clean to take an uneventful 4th position with no major “racing” taking place. Ensuring that Chris Lyons in the #101 “Brooks” car stayed behind was the main goal for this race. Lyons was not a factor for Mosty during this race.


R3 highlights
Wet qualification and no transponder put AI #67 at the back of the pack for the start. Full treads were chosen, however were not the proper choice for the drying track conditions. A hard fight for 3-4 laps to get through CMC traffic put me fighting with Chris Lyons in Jeff Brooks’ “rented” car. Positions were swapped more times than can be recalled. After a missed shift coming out of T5, Lyons passed Mosty going down the back straight. Mosty decided to initiate a banzai move going into the sweeper and hardly lift. Unfortunately there was not enough room to slow the car going into “bus stop”. Mosty took it 4 wheels off and proceeded with the pedal to the metal to regain track position. Lyons won the pass with a better line than Mosty’s grass line. Mosty was never able to regain the lost position and finished 6th behind White, Marvel, Irvin, Capps, and Lyons.


R4 highlights
Race 4 was an inverted rolling start based on R3 finish. Mosty started on pole for AI behind David Armstrong, the sole AIX entry for the weekend. Mosty held off Marvel, White, and Irvin for several laps before succumbing to the freight train torque monsters of the top 3 cars. David Capps, driving the typically piloted Spencer Sharp ’05 Mustang fought hard to get in front of the #67 car. After a missed shift (again) coming out of T5, the massive torque of the ‘05’s 351 pulled the new SLA prepared ’05 to a lead position in front of the lower powered 302, stock front suspension setup of Mosty. However, weight was key during the long corners and hard braking zones as Mosty’s 2825lb car could out brake and turn-in harder than the 3600 lb ’05. In the end, #67 didn’t have enough brakes going into T16 to pass Capps. Mosty finished the race 4th in class.

[Mike Bell]

ROFLMAO - I give up. Headed out to the bicycle rack now...............

[Rob Liebbe]

You just can't contain or control this bunch of misfits....besides doesn't this fall under the renegade attitude?

[CMC17]

Renegades that use the back of their electric bill to write demands on before giving it to a bank teller? Maybe! :lol:

[AllZWay]

Hey Mike.... Thanks for the free pass. :P

If you want I can cut and paste into an email and send though. :D

[mitchntx]

You gonna take that crap Rob?

http://amicalementvost.free.fr/CatBoxing.jpg

Ok Mitch, I have an internet porn collection from college of nearly 10k pictures of naked women and that is probably a low guess.... Do you have a similar number of cat pictures or what?! :P

Where do you find this stuff?!! :D

I'm beginning to think you guys are serious ... Doesn't everyone have cat pictures? :o

http://donavanvicha.alablog.org/dvicha/catwhat02.jpg

[bossskip302]

Mike, we have all been spoiled by the write-ups by Adam and Todd..putting these write-ups together does take some time...if I recall I put two events together , it took up two days of time (per write-up), recalling the events...and spitting it out at my snail paced typing skills.
Adam would take the time to make notes at the track, thus recalling all the action even getting it (the race report) in Media vehicles.
A great goal for our region would be to:

Get Mike to do 07 write-ups (Varner as asst.?)

Get each race write up in GRM with pics.

Keep contact with Andy Bowman(West Region) , who has passed on our results and personal interviews to various sites and Sponsers.

Keep all our suppliers in the loop Toyo, PST etc

This is a few ideas, which can only increase comunication as well as plug sponsers and soon to be ones ( for you Matt:) )
Mike good luck, I know all of us enjoy reading a race write-up and can't wait to read about the action, results and all the new champions :D


Skip

New to the "racers" list as of today...I knew we lived in the country.....

[oz98cobra]

Mike, email sent as requested, and pics are in the gallery - let me know if you don't have the email.

[Mike Bell]

Guys, I think there are a few misunderstandings here I'd like to clear up:

First off, THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL NASA TX RACE REPORT. This is a "renegade" or "bootleg" version of a race report because I don't think we'll see an official race report again in 2006.

Second, while I'll do my best to mention everyone and our loyal sponsors there is no effort to be the official race report with this renegade report. As a matter of fact, the renegade report might not meet the "official standards" with some of its tone. I am using a past report by AG and TC for the over-all format in case you're now scared you'll get something done in crayon. I don't envision it going to GRM.

Third, I'm not volunteering to do the race reports in 2007 for NASA TX. NASA TX has a new media guy do the official 2007 reports (from what I've heard from TC). Let's give him our support, I'm looking forward to reading them. Depending on how they are received, I may continue to do the RRR (Renegade Race Report) if the official NASA TX reports seem a little too light on details we'd like to see.

Fourth, the next guy who posts his race recaps in this thread gets thrashed in my writeup lol. You think the Joe Dirt Vert is bad, wait till I get finished blasting Mr. Liebbe's hooptie and his mad driving skillz yo! (ok, I'm kidding Rob.)

Did anyone take podium pics? If so, can they send them to me? Anyone have any additional details? Send them on please!!

Daron, I got your email, thanks!

[Mike Bell]

I was just made aware that we did NOT present any medals last race event or take podium pics??? :shock:

Mitch, you got any cat pics of podium awards? LOL.

[Garbage]

Matt,

You passed me because I feel asleep on the track. I was bored running between groups 8 and 5. I could have passed you in the final laps, but why ruin your race for points. I choose to hang back. :wink:

I started to slow down two laps before you passed me. Why run my car hard for no good reason? I am not racing anyone in AIX. If I had known you would brag about it, you would not have passed me and stayed ahead of me.

David

[donovan]

I was just made aware that we did NOT present any medals last race event or take podium pics??? :shock:

Mitch, you got any cat pics of podium awards? LOL.

For some reason this did not happen, we tried and one point to get some shots but could not get everyone organized to get it done.

We did not have any metals, but we keep a set in the camera bag just for that, so not having metals from NASA is no excuse. We just could not get people organized to take the shots.

I think this was the first event this year that no podium shot were taken.

DD

[GlennCMC70]

i was just reminded yesterday that NASA TX has agree'ed to write all race reports starting w/ TWS a couple months back. so they are, what, 2 events behind? i'm gonna take a deep breath now, and hold it till i see a report from them. if no one hears from me in the next 10 minutes, call 911! :oops: :roll:

[michaelmosty]

Glenn, you still with us????
He's not breathing!!!! Somebody give him mouth-to-mouth! :shock:

[mitchntx]

Somebody give him mouth-to-mouth! :shock:

Sorry ... he's gonna die!

[AI#97]

Matt,

You passed me because I feel asleep on the track. I was bored running between groups 8 and 5. I could have passed you in the final laps, but why ruin your race for points. I choose to hang back. :wink:

I started to slow down two laps before you passed me. Why run my car hard for no good reason? I am not racing anyone in AIX. If I had known you would brag about it, you would not have passed me and stayed ahead of me.

David

sorry david, just feeding the ego and giving the sponsors something to brag about.....no harm, no names and no foul!!! :wink:

Believe me, I KNOW you could have passed me at will after following you in practice on Saturday morning...from the looks of it, your car on Hoosiers could pretty much go wherever you wanted to put it! :shock:

[GlennCMC70]

Land that plane Corey, i'm ok and dont need no mouth to mouth.

as i started to fade away, i saw the light and realized how absurd it was of me to expect someone to do what they said. :roll:

[oz98cobra]

This is rediculous - if we think that we are going to get quality race reports from NASA TX, written by some media dude who doesn't know us, or much about our racing, then we are all seriously deluded!

While I applaud NASA TX for stepping up their marketing and media efforts in our region several notches, any race reports are always going to be about the whole race weekend, and from a 30,000 ft view no doubt - not the in-depth class specific reports we are used to from TC and AG.

The fact is that AI/CMC Texas is an entity in our right. Yes we are part of the NASA Texas family, but we are also part of the national AI/CMC family - just like Busch is part of NASCAR, or Speed World Challenge is a part of SCCA Pro Racing - we are an entity in our own right! We have to understand this - and NASA TX needs to understand and respect this. We CAN and SHOULD be responsible for promoting ourselves and being masters of our own destiny - there is nothing wrong with this - it is how the racing world works!

So just like we have our own website, and dues, and our own banquet, etc., we need to have our own publicity - our own race writeups, etc. WE need to write them, WE need to publish them on our own website and other forums, and WE need to submit these to GRM (or the appropriate AI/CMC person over in CA if there is a chain of command here?). We should of course also make them available to NASA TX so that their media guy can pick the highlights out for NASA TX regional publicity.

The job of writing the race writeups should not automatically be tied to the regional class directors roles - they have enough to do, and someone who makes a good representive for the class may not necessarily be any good at writing race reports - but as a group, we need to find a couple people who are willing to take it on each year on a volunteer basis, just like Jeff and Chris stepped up to give us our own website.

The people who take this on don't necessarily have to be racers - there may be talented significant others who watches most of the races from the sidelines who can take notes and help put together something after each round?

If we as a group agree with what I have said above, then I am willing to work with Mike and whoever else can step up to help out with this stuff next year.

[Mike Bell]

Anyone talk to NASA TX on the topic lately?? I ask because apparently NASA TX wants some say in the media stuff cranked out. Why else would they have taken over the responsibility?? If they do reports that aren't detailed enough for us, we can decide on what we want to add or do outside of that.

I'm about halfway through this report (thanks again to those who sent picture and their perpectives!) and it looks/smells/sounds a lot like previous race reports so it won't be too far off of what AG/TC and Skip did for us in the past. Once I get it done and proof-read by a few other eyeballs we can thrash over where it should go and who should see it.

I just want a race report. I've already had fun going back and looking at reports from 2004. That's the real value of these things IMHO.

[RichardP]

The race reports were taken from our control for the same reason that tech and most other administrative duties were taken away. Someone didn't like how or who was doing it and they complained to mommy and daddy.

Tech is being done (or actually not done) by people who don't know or understand the details of our rules. The race reports are now being done (or again actually not being done) by someone who doesn't know anything about us.


Richard Pedersen
#91 LX 5.0

[AI#97]

Anyone talk to NASA TX on the topic lately??

I spoke with Shannon and Bekah about this during the unique performance show as we mostly got to sit around and BS the entire time. The media guy's job will be to spend all weekend in the pits and do interviews and get to know the racers. He might even do small writeups on each of us or atleast keep bios on us for reference. I think they are still working out the details and formats and are developing the plan so they have something to work with. You can't just shit out a marketing/publicity plan over night and they ARE looking for inputs so please forward your creative and positive/negative thoughts to them. They have email addresses on the NASATX site and they want us to be happy with the results. Afterall, WE are the heroes going into print for them! They got to make us look good and with this group, that is sometimes a tough task! :wink:

[michaelmosty]

FYI, I just got off the phone w/ Shannon regarding this and other issues. She said that NASA TX would be handling the race reports effective 2007. They have nothing planned nor have ever had anything planned for these last two events of 2006.

[Mike Bell]

Prior to the August TWS event, NASA Texas insisted on having responsibility for race writeups. TWS ( August ) and MSR-H ( October ) were/are supposed to be written and published by NASA Texas.

If any of you are dissatisfied with the timeliness and/or lack of race writeups, please contact Shannon and/or NASA Texas.

So apparently this isn't the case Adam based upon Michael's post above.

[AI#97]

FYI, I just got off the phone w/ Shannon regarding this and other issues. She said that NASA TX would be handling the race reports effective 2007. They have nothing planned nor have ever had anything planned for these last two events of 2006.

Hmm, NOT the story I got from the horse's mouth a few weeks ago...???? :?

[Tex89]

Hmm, NOT the story I got from the horse's mouth a few weeks ago...???? :?

It looks like the horse is changing it's spots. :D

[GlennCMC70]

i say we write our own race reports and just forget about depending on NASA TX.

[donovan]

The race reports were taken from our control for the same reason that tech and most other administrative duties were taken away. Someone didn't like how or who was doing it and they complained to mommy and daddy.

Tech is being done (or actually not done) by people who don't know or understand the details of our rules. The race reports are now being done (or again actually not being done) by someone who doesn't know anything about us.


Richard Pedersen
#91 LX 5.0

I could not agree more, and now that people are seeing the results... I see people second thinking the whole thing...

It is usually better to just fix and repair what is in place than start all over...

I will shut up now.

[Adam Ginsberg]

FYI, I just got off the phone w/ Shannon regarding this and other issues. She said that NASA TX would be handling the race reports effective 2007. They have nothing planned nor have ever had anything planned for these last two events of 2006.

Interesting. Definitely not what was explained prior to the TWS event.


i say we write our own race reports and just forget about depending on NASA TX.

We did that for, 3 years. It worked well ( granted, with a few hiccups, not perfect, but for the most part, it did work ) until this earlier year. Why, you ask?


The race reports were taken from our control for the same reason that tech and most other administrative duties were taken away. Someone didn't like how or who was doing it and they complained to mommy and daddy.

There ya go.

[David Love AI27]

FYI, I just got off the phone w/ Shannon regarding this and other issues. She said that NASA TX would be handling the race reports effective 2007. They have nothing planned nor have ever had anything planned for these last two events of 2006.

Hmm, NOT the story I got from the horse's mouth a few weeks ago...???? :?


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[David Love AI27]

No funds to race, Came down Sunday to see final race of the season and to give praise to the 2006 champions and to pickup AI/CMC tee shirts. The shirts were not there but it was really good to see you guys. Congrats to Pederson/Marvel (AI), Burch (CMC) and Smith (AIX).

[Mike Bell]

After 4 days off watching NASCAR Cup, Busch, and Trucks as well as eating steaks and watching the Legends cars I'm back and ready to finish up the report. Depending on what critical stack of work is on my desk today I'll crank this report out sometime today or tomorrow.
:D
Mucho thanks to SchuVarner who picked up some of the slack while I was vacationing in sunny (NOT) DFW this past weekend. :lol:

[Todd Covini]

Thanks Mike for taking this project on!!!

Prior to the TWS event, I was notified that NASA TX would now be handling these race writeups. At the Mid-Ohio Nationals, I was notified that that plan fell thru for the remainder of 2006 and would now not occur. Unfortunately, I've been entirely unavailable with my work schedule to pick up the slack for 2006, as I hoped I could.

As previously announced, NASA TX does have big plans for 2007 with Mr. Aulds coming onto the scene. In addition, I'm working on a new Texas AI/CMC leadership team for 2007 which should be able to assist/augment Mr. Aulds' with the writeups that we all have grown to know/love.

Keep the faith boys & girls!!!

-=- Todd

[Mike Bell]

In addition, I'm working on a new Texas AI/CMC leadership team for 2007

When will the elections be held? :lol:

[Todd Covini]

Are you a candidate running for office??? :idea:

[Mike Bell]

No, I'm a disenfranchised voter!! 8)

Beware the hanging chad............. :shock:

[CMC17]

I'm working on a new Texas AI/CMC leadership team for 2007

Don't leave us hanging like a double hung chad!!! Enlighten us oh Mastah!!

8)

[mitchntx]

I'm working on a new Texas AI/CMC leadership team for 2007

Don't leave us hanging like a double hung chad!!! Enlighten us oh Mastah!!

8)

Don't hold yer breath ... that is Catbert-ese for "Who the f*@% knows."

[Todd Covini]

Rumsfield has stepped down.
Presidential elections are in 2 years.
We're "Staying the course".
A new leadership team is being assembled and based upon the popular vote, some improvements and changes are necessary to address the issues at hand.

Oh...and we can discuss AI/CMC on Jan. 13 at the Annual Awards Banquet. :wink:

-=- T