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jeffburch
03-23-2007, 08:38 AM
PREFACE
Since this site has no blog, I have started this thread.
It is not ment to receive criticism or entice envy.
Only to inform of what I'm doing out in the garage.

It is my belief that preparation before hitting the track is about 50% of the equation.
Hence the term, cinch it up.

jb

jeffburch
03-23-2007, 08:51 AM
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/CarPrep%20003sm.jpg

Road Atlanta was hard on brakes. Rotors are at O'Reallys getting turned.
Pads (Carbotech XP-10's) have a day or 2 left in 'em.

My fuel pump was singing at the end of Sundays race so it's down with the tank to get at it.
This involves dropping the rearend AND my 1 piece exhaust system.
I am finally engineering an access hole to facilitate easier pump changes in the future.


3rd gear was getting crunchy with the synchros so I ordered another 5th gear set from Astro. My present set is a PITA. The gear on the tail shaft is too big to be pressed on the shaft and then the shaft installed into the case. It wont fit thru the case hole. So, the shaft has to be in the case AND then pressed on the shaft. MAJOR pita. In order to get at my 3rd gear problem, you have to remove the tailshaft (in case you were wondering).

Yes, been on vaca all week following RA last week.
Had the car up Monday afternoon.
Shooting for "Pit Happens" on Mother's day.
More later,
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/CarPrep%20001sm.jpg

jb

macstang
03-25-2007, 02:01 AM
I'm prepping my car for storage.

And prepping the race car for return to Micah.

Sad days... :(

Rob Liebbe
03-25-2007, 08:37 AM
Good luck overseas. We will anxiously await your return.

Al Fernandez
03-26-2007, 02:49 PM
I noticed you left the calipers on the rear axle...quick disconnects or re-bleed??

jeffburch
04-01-2007, 09:01 PM
No Al, no quick disconnect. Needs a flush anyways.

Gas tank access hole is done, awaiting new pump.
New seat arrived finally. 9weeks for a custom seat from Ultrashield.
I can't believe I raced almost 2 years in a Junior seat from Sparco
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/NewSeat%20008sm.jpg
About 2 days of fab time, Very happy with the results.
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/NewSeat%20003.jpg
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/NewSeat%20004.jpg

AllZWay
04-01-2007, 09:05 PM
Nice seat JB.

I just took my car off of stands this weekend and declared it ready for TWS....except for I need a couple of new tires and mount them.

I also have to redyno, since I changed out my valve springs. Hope to redyno this week or next and hope I found some of my lost torque.

jeffburch
04-01-2007, 09:25 PM
I almost forget,
I got a new tow mule.
The 4.8L short-wide ain't gonna cut it any longer (forsale/Trader).
jb
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/06_Silverado%20005sm.jpg

Boudy
04-01-2007, 10:11 PM
Show off! hehe... Congratulations on the new truck.

Mine is still on stands. Found many problems under the ole' Fox and having a few more puttin' it back together.

Boudy

jeffburch
10-27-2008, 06:34 AM
I've lost my mind.
Tired of driving a Lemons lookin POS.
Gonna paint inside/out and rewire.
jb
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/001sm.jpg
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/002sm.jpg
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/003sm.jpg
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/006sm.jpg

mitchntx
10-27-2008, 07:39 AM
Now would be a good time to redo that cage of yours.

AllZWay
10-27-2008, 07:53 AM
WOW... JB is doing a restoration job.

I would like to do a little paint work, but the off season is so short with all the holidays and other things going I am not sure I am going to have time to do it.

silversvo
10-27-2008, 08:28 AM
WOW! it is torn down pretty good now. It was still somewhat together when I was over there two days ago. I was shocked to see the car torn apart when I showed up and you werent lying when you said you are redoing everything. I cant wait to see how good it turns out.

ShadowBolt
10-27-2008, 08:32 AM
Jeff,

If you go with a Painfull wiring harness be sure to get the one with extra length. I'm sure you already know this but I did not and mine was a bitch to install. The extra length would have been great.


JJ

Alien
10-27-2008, 08:40 AM
I've lost my mind.
Tired of driving a Lemons lookin POS.
jb


Way to go MFW, you finally convinced JB to go AI. Looks like the car is ready for a lexan windshield and those trick carbon fibre fenders and hood. Can't wait to see what JB comes up wik for the front aero.

jeffburch
10-27-2008, 09:59 AM
No money for cage. Already have one 8)
No Painfull stuff.
WAY to much money.
I'm a wire guy by trade and am doing Tefzel milspec wire and recrimping all new connectors.
Klixon circuit breakers/switches. Bosch relays and a new guage/switch panal. No more electrical DNF's for me hopefully :roll: .

Stripping the many coats of rattlecan inside is the fun part.

Troy, I have some tires and supper for you if you wanna get dirty :wink: .
Just got a gallon of Jasco paint stripper this morning when I had 6 tires dismounted.

jb

cobra132
10-27-2008, 02:24 PM
Holy $&*# man, slow it down. You're making us all look bad. FMR

silversvo
10-27-2008, 03:30 PM
I am working nights, but if you have time off in the day, I can drive up there and definitely help out as I am not scared to get dirty... Just let me know what day to head that way as I get off at 6am and I can go straight that way. You got my number. call me!!

Jeremy Gunter
10-27-2008, 09:24 PM
Hey JB,

If you need any traveling cable for the back half of the racecar let me know, Got a about 20 30' sections laying around. all different kinds...

Rob Liebbe
10-27-2008, 09:46 PM
JB - the ultimate D.I.N.K. !!!!!!

jeffburch
10-28-2008, 07:37 AM
Hey JB,

If you need any traveling cable for the back half of the racecar let me know, Got a about 20 30' sections laying around. all different kinds...
uhhhhh, I don't know what that is.




JB - the ultimate D.I.N.K. !!!!!!
by design :wink:

jb

Fbody383
10-28-2008, 10:37 AM
No Painfull stuff. WAY to much money.
I'm a wire guy by trade and am doing Tefzel milspec wire and recrimping all new connectors.
Klixon circuit breakers/switches. Bosch relays and a new guage/switch panal. No more electrical DNF's for me hopefully

Oh yeah, that's MUCH less expensive...

silversvo
10-29-2008, 07:43 PM
I am going to have to rewire my car pretty soon as it is a mess, I am not going to the extreme like JB did, thats for sure...

AI#97
10-30-2008, 04:29 PM
Wow...I spent an hour fixing my starter....other than that, the car is as it sat when I unloaded it from ECR... Guess I will do my toyo bucks and get me some R888's and I am good to go for 09....atleast until nationals when I need the new motor dropped in! ;)

AllZWay
10-30-2008, 04:34 PM
I have to put in a new clutch, replace the water pump, new brakes all the way around, and new tires before I will be ready.

I did clean out my shop and winterize my jet ski's so that I could unload it from the trailer and start working on it.

Wirtz
10-30-2008, 04:48 PM
I finished my second coat of wax last night. 3 more to do and I'm ready.

jeffburch
10-30-2008, 05:18 PM
What kind do you use/recommend?
I'm getting something (trophy) that may need a little polish.
Can you bring it to the banquet?

8)

jb

Wirtz
10-30-2008, 06:02 PM
Ouch... I don't wanna play no more :(

michaelmosty
10-30-2008, 08:53 PM
Wow, JB put down the Schlitz and the gloves came off!! :lol:

Fbody383
10-30-2008, 09:01 PM
I have to put in a new clutch, replace the water pump, new brakes all the way around, and new tires before I will be ready.

That sounds real familiar... I guess I'll have to get Todd... what was I thinking? I mean Al, to come give the car the once over soon.

Should be at least one new car in January fellas. It won't hold a candle to the Camry or have Klingon switches and a $300 wax job :shock:

Toyo(ta) Rules!

Pass me a Milwaukee's Best.

jeffburch
11-23-2008, 08:01 PM
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/030sm.jpg

mitchntx
11-23-2008, 08:37 PM
Looks good, Jeff.

I've been busy too ...

http://www.lawmotorsports.net/Pics/Mitch/jackreceiver.jpg

That's a jacking receiver. There is a hole in the door that aligns with the receiver. I insert a jacking rig into the square tube and lift using the rig.

I've been using a set of rather robust subframe connectors as jacking points. The SFCs are coming off.

Hope to drop 15-20lbs ...

Adam Ginsberg
11-23-2008, 09:16 PM
Looks good, Jeff.

I've been busy too ...

Thought you were "done", selling everything, tossing in the towel, calling it quits.....

mitchntx
11-23-2008, 09:19 PM
Looks good, Jeff.

I've been busy too ...

Thought you were "done", selling everything, tossing in the towel, calling it quits.....

Still jumping to conclusions, I see. The only thing factual you stated was



selling everything


The rest is just wishful thinking on your part. :wink:

Adam Ginsberg
11-23-2008, 09:26 PM
Spin your alzheimer-laden BS any way you want, but if you're selling everything, that's throwing in the towel.

mitchntx
11-23-2008, 09:43 PM
Spin your alzheimer-laden BS any way you want, but if you're selling everything, that's throwing in the towel.

No, it's just everything is for sale.

It is what it is ...

GlennCMC70
11-23-2008, 09:44 PM
wow. i havent seen my car since ECR. :(

AI#97
11-23-2008, 10:00 PM
wow. i havent seen my car since ECR. :(

I fixed the starter on mine and started it last sunday...still need to fix my trailer so the car can go back onto it.... :oops: Goobered it up taking it off after ECR...

gt40
11-23-2008, 11:00 PM
Haven't touched the Mustang, either -- Probably won't until mid-December, when it's getting a much-needed bump in power.

Still gotta get the suit fixed...

David Love AI27
11-23-2008, 11:03 PM
That's a jacking receiver. There is a hole in the door that aligns with the receiver. I insert a jacking rig into the square tube and lift using the rig.

I've been using a set of rather robust subframe connectors as jacking points. The SFCs are coming off.

Hope to drop 15-20lbs ...


Very cool... I'm gonna do something similar cuz my car sits so low... why are you getting rid of SFCs? don't they prevent twisting? I have some monster 2 by 4 tubing for SFCs and I would love to get rid of them to reroute exhaust but thought they were necessary...

renewed 24 hr fitness membership for the weight loss...

GlennCMC70
11-23-2008, 11:27 PM
w/ a cage, subs dont do alot.
i keep mine for jack points and skid plates. :shock:

jeffburch
11-24-2008, 01:02 AM
Still gotta get the suit fixed...

I saw a replacement Sparco suit zipper somewhere recently.
Can't remember where.

michaelmosty
11-24-2008, 08:41 AM
I got mine washed and waxed 2 weeks ago, no she is just sitting quietly in the garage next to the LeMons car. :)

JB, the car looks great, can't wait to see the finished product!

AllZWay
11-24-2008, 09:27 AM
I replaced the clutch and waterpump in my car last weekend.

Now I just have to do brakes all the way around.

I would like to do some paint work if time permits, but that it looking pretty iffy at that point.

silversvo
11-24-2008, 11:14 AM
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/030sm.jpg

At the rate you are going you could be at the first race!!! Looks good and cant wait to see the finished product but you could stop there and it will be ready for the first lemons race!!

jeffburch
11-27-2008, 01:59 PM
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/007sm.jpg

Is this spoiler legal? 8)


http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/005sm.jpg

http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/sw_pnl_sm.jpg

jeffburch
12-05-2008, 06:16 PM
So, how did this work out?
:P
jb


Looks good, Jeff.

I've been busy too ...

http://www.lawmotorsports.net/Pics/Mitch/jackreceiver.jpg

That's a jacking receiver. There is a hole in the door that aligns with the receiver. I insert a jacking rig into the square tube and lift using the rig.

I've been using a set of rather robust subframe connectors as jacking points. The SFCs are coming off.

Hope to drop 15-20lbs ...

mitchntx
12-05-2008, 07:24 PM
Not well. :cry:

jeffburch
12-21-2008, 09:47 AM
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/rewire_sm.jpg

AI#97
12-21-2008, 04:08 PM
Would it not have been better to paint the insde before the wiring or are you going with the weight savings of no paint...? :wink:

jeffburch
12-21-2008, 05:20 PM
harness comes out.
Paint soon.
Didn't wanna muck up new interior paint during wiring.
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/rewire02_sm.jpg

michaelmosty
12-21-2008, 06:25 PM
Very nice JB, want to come do my car? :)

David Love AI27
12-21-2008, 09:39 PM
harness comes out.
Paint soon.
Didn't wanna muck up new interior paint during wiring.
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/rewire02_sm.jpg

got tile in the garage or does Bev let you bring your racing crap in the house???? what a woman!!! I remember a discussion about tires (lots of tires) in the house to keep 'em soft and sticky... :twisted:

David Love AI27
12-21-2008, 09:41 PM
Would it not have been better to paint the insde before the wiring or are you going with the weight savings of no paint...? :wink:

weight savings????? I thought he has to add fiddy pounds :?

AI#97
12-22-2008, 08:48 AM
Would it not have been better to paint the insde before the wiring or are you going with the weight savings of no paint...? :wink:

weight savings????? I thought he has to add fiddy pounds :?

Without paint, he can now put it anywhere he wants! ;)

silversvo
12-28-2008, 07:27 PM
JB,

You going to have some more updated pics of the car??? Did you get all the body work done yet?

jeffburch
12-28-2008, 08:16 PM
Hey Troy, sup?
No, just got interior painted this weekend.
Thanks to you.
I appreciate your help.
jb
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/DSC_0068sm.jpg
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/DSC_0067sm.jpg
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/DSC_0078sm.jpg

AI#97
12-28-2008, 08:40 PM
I hope to do the same to mine over the next few weeks...going to be a big task though getting all that stuff out of the way!

Looks good Jeff! Now you and Wirtz and compete for cleanest interior too! :lol:

silversvo
12-28-2008, 09:11 PM
LOOKS GREAT! I wish I could be more help to you with the car. Maybe the next job, I will be back over there in the DFW area as I am sitting in Shreveport now...

jeffburch
12-28-2008, 09:29 PM
Come on!
Fresh keg, plenty of sandpaper and 2 DA's.

jb

Rob Liebbe
12-28-2008, 09:46 PM
Uh - is it going to be ready for the first event? That would be amazing, yet not surprising.

AI#97
12-28-2008, 10:06 PM
Uh - is it going to be ready for the first event? That would be amazing, yet not surprising.

Mine won't be.... :cry: Just got it home today after being away for over a month....it was cranky and a little pissed off but happy to be back home now!

Jeff, I might have to take you advice and just put a keg in the garage and I would spend more time out there! :lol:

jeffburch
12-28-2008, 11:31 PM
Uh - is it going to be ready for the first event? That would be amazing, yet not surprising.
Haven't planned to.
Could in primer maybe if could get to a dyno.
I have 30 or so dyno sheets but guess I need one more :roll:

jb

jeffburch
12-29-2008, 08:00 PM
Here's my switch panel.
I was never happy with the 2 homemade ones.
I still have to cut off the lower corners, put a bend/brake in it and put a finish on it.
Need help deciding.
Natural with black engraving fill or,
Black/white powder coat or,
Black anodize with white fill.
I'm thinking black paint then fill with white.
Frontpanelexpress does black anodize with white powder fill.
Clearcoat final coat.
My DAQ diaplay will go in the upper blank area.
I also have all black chrome knurled nuts for the switchs.
Thx,
jb
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/DSC_0003sm.jpg
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/06crop_sm.jpg

Todd Covini
12-30-2008, 12:57 AM
Too cool.
You're inspiring me to start thinking about a new front bumper cover and paint for CMC#2. :lol:

David Love AI27
12-30-2008, 08:30 AM
yep, thanks for the inspiration.. :P think I'm gonna get the car off the trailer and clean the mold outta the inside... :shock:

AllZWay
12-30-2008, 08:56 AM
Jeff is definitely building a bling master. Nice work JB.

jeffburch
12-31-2008, 11:27 PM
BLING


http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/002asm.jpg

AI#97
01-01-2009, 12:19 AM
you may regret the clear aluminum....Gunter has some on his car and it's blinding in the sun...

I started working on my car tonight and started de-wiring the harness....I think there are more wires going to my fuel pump than burch has in his entire car! Dash wiring starts tomorrow.

Jeremy Gunter
01-01-2009, 02:29 AM
BLING


http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/002asm.jpg

Just wait till I show off my el paso inspired dash... Chew dink ew no bleeng...

Jeremy Gunter
01-01-2009, 02:32 AM
BLING


http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/002asm.jpg

Just wait till I show off my el paso inspired dash... Chew dink ew no bleeng...

jeffburch
01-01-2009, 07:23 PM
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/dash_sm.jpg

AI#97
01-01-2009, 09:17 PM
Looks Badass! What white paint are you using?

jeffburch
01-01-2009, 09:48 PM
Thanks.
Color is white :shock:

Simple silly, same as my truck I tow it with.
'06 Silverado white.

silversvo
01-01-2009, 10:22 PM
are you going to get a new dash pad?? I know we talked about that a while back. The car looks great! I cant wait to see it finished.

David Love AI27
01-02-2009, 04:10 AM
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/dash_sm.jpg

U suck...

jeffburch
01-02-2009, 07:03 AM
are you going to get a new dash pad?? I know we talked about that a while back. The car looks great! I cant wait to see it finished.

Ya, have a glue on hunk-o-plastic that covers the original.
Looks new.
More pics Sun nite.
thx,
jb

AI#97
01-02-2009, 07:37 AM
Thanks.
Color is white :shock:

Simple silly, same as my truck I tow it with.
'06 Silverado white.

So a catalyzed Auto paint? I am getting ready to paint the inside of my car soon and can't decide what color I want to use. I don't really want to do white like the rest of you guys have and I am tired of silver. I would like to do black so dirt doesn't show but that white does look great! :oops:

jeffburch
01-02-2009, 08:01 AM
Black shows the most dirt IMO.
Plus it's hotter-n-hell.
Omni MTK single stage from English Color.
$115/gal not including catalyst and reducer.
Already have a blue,red,silver and a 2 black Camaros in Tx.
I wanted white interior for temperture. Doing exterior in it by default.
Maybe Hugger Orange accents, dunno. Hadn't given it much thought other than what was cheap.
jb

AI#97
01-02-2009, 08:59 AM
Black shows the most dirt IMO.
Plus it's hotter-n-hell.
Omni MTK single stage from English Color.
$115/gal not including catalyst and reducer.
Already have a blue,red,silver and a 2 black Camaros in Tx.
I wanted white interior for temperture. Doing exterior in it by default.
Maybe Hugger Orange accents, dunno. Hadn't given it much thought other than what was cheap.
jb

Are you concerned about any glare inside the windshield? I had to start blacking a few things out because they were visible on the inside of the windshield. Add to the fact there is a TON of greasy crap on the inside from nationals and the rain, and my 2 year old lexan windshield looks like crap....and Shields tells me that it is at the end of it's life! Won't be buying that shit again. I have a few weeks to figure it out as I have a LOT of work to do inside the car. I am considering redoing a portion of the cage I never liked too as well as some metal clean up. Taking this year off is going to finally let me do the car right.

jeffburch
01-02-2009, 09:39 AM
Are you concerned about any glare inside the windshield?
Will let you know. For some reason nothing so far has distracted me in any way will running.
jb

RagingAardvark
01-02-2009, 10:59 AM
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/dash_sm.jpg
Damn Jeff, that's looking great!! Top notch!

mitchntx
01-02-2009, 11:41 AM
The interior of my car in white ... no glare problems.

Fbody383
01-02-2009, 11:48 AM
Maybe Hugger Orange accents..
If you don't, I'm certainly thinking about it. Maybe I'll do orange with white accents so it looks more like the 69 car...


U suck...
+1 Gazillion

AI#97
01-02-2009, 11:57 AM
The interior of my car in white ... no glare problems.

Might be the silver/lexan combo that is causing my problem. There is an anti-fog coating on it that probably doesn't help either.

Rob Liebbe
01-02-2009, 12:16 PM
Maybe Hugger Orange accents..
If you don't, I'm certainly thinking about it. Maybe I'll do orange with white accents so it looks more like the 69 car...



It would be cool to paint the car white and orange and cover the seat in the white/orange houndstooth material like the 69 Camaro Pace Cars.

David Love AI27
01-02-2009, 01:00 PM
The interior of my car in white ... no glare problems.

Mine too, but it is flat white with lots of mold to cut down on reflection..

jeffburch
01-02-2009, 01:44 PM
I'm seriously considering orange accents of some kind.
Somewhere around the net is a 3rd gen in white/orange that is pretty neat.
2 stripes over the hood and down the tail.
jb

http://i4.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/1d/cf/41bb_12.JPG

AI#97
01-02-2009, 04:02 PM
I'm seriously considering orange accents of some kind.
Somewhere around the net is a 3rd gen in white/orange that is pretty neat.
2 stripes over the hood and down the tail.
jb

Shotz? :shock:

jeffburch
01-02-2009, 04:17 PM
LOL!
OH HELL NO!!

GlennCMC70
01-02-2009, 06:34 PM
I'm seriously considering orange accents of some kind.
Somewhere around the net is a 3rd gen in white/orange that is pretty neat.
2 stripes over the hood and down the tail.
jb

http://i4.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/1d/cf/41bb_12.JPG

that there is the Bezaro World Shotz CMC car.

AllZWay
01-02-2009, 06:50 PM
Looks really good JB... you two Jeff's are making my car look like a steaming pile. :cry:

jeffburch
01-02-2009, 07:39 PM
that there is the Bezaro World Shotz CMC car.

Are you trying to talk me out of the white/orange?

thx,
jb

GlennCMC70
01-02-2009, 07:54 PM
no. with white and orange stripes, i know when you get next to me there will be no side to side action.

remember, bizaro world is the opposite.

mitchntx
01-02-2009, 09:04 PM
There are several badass looking 3rd gens around ...

Black and red ...
http://www.claystrombeck.com/iroc2.jpg


Kinda nifty paint scheme ... festive, but not overly done.
http://www.ttrspeedway.com/chorton49/pagerenders/IROC87%20CAR.jpg


Black on Orange ...
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/18239132749.jpg?1208369550

David Love AI27
01-02-2009, 10:00 PM
THANKS MITCH... I have always wanted a good example of IROC race themed car... think I'm gonna go with black primary and neon green accent (color of "Monster") and gonna copy their "Unleash the Beast!" moto on the hood....

I know, I know... copyright infringement.... the day any of their reps show up at one of our events, I will be happy to pay the fine/penalty...

Rob Liebbe
01-03-2009, 10:31 AM
Don't think of it as a fine/penalty, tell him its free advertizing. Besides, its not like you're making money of his image/name.

David Love AI27
01-03-2009, 12:41 PM
Don't think of it as a fine/penalty, tell him its free advertizing. Besides, its not like you're making money of his image/name.

I know, right??

jeffburch
01-03-2009, 07:07 PM
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/DSC_0011sm.jpg
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/DSC_0012sm.jpg
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/DSC_0016sm.jpg

Rob Liebbe
01-03-2009, 10:47 PM
Are those steel braided lines running to the prop valve?

jeffburch
01-03-2009, 11:40 PM
Are those steel braided lines running to the prop valve?
yessir, is that legal?
jb
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/DSC_0012sm2.jpg

silversvo
01-04-2009, 01:17 AM
JB

I am starting to think that your making a show car instead of a race car... Will it be ready for the Houston Autorama?? :lol:

Rob Liebbe
01-04-2009, 10:16 AM
Are those steel braided lines running to the prop valve?
yessir, is that legal?
jb


I suppose it's legal, but that is not the issue. Steel braided lines have a lot of compliance under pressure compared to hard lines. If you use too much of it, you could end up with a soft pedal. I knew a guy once who bought a Cobra Replicar setup up for road racing, the entire brake system was plumbed in steel braided lines. The car was unstoppable - in a bad way. He had to replumb the brakes.

If that is the only extra steel braided you added, you should be ok.

Just want you to be safe.

marshall_mosty
01-04-2009, 10:47 AM
I really like the hinged panel on the switches with the dzus fasteners to make it easy to flip down for service... very nice.

jeffburch
01-04-2009, 12:33 PM
Rob, my hardline plumbing to the propvalve was SOOooo fugly I had to do something on this interior refinish. There's 3' max here of line. Maybe just enough to soften a spike?

Marshall,
I saw a panel done that way recently. I just copied it.
Thx,
jb

GlennCMC70
01-04-2009, 01:28 PM
jeff - the only thing i see wrong w/ your panel (it looks nice though) is the lack of a stiffing rib of some sort. i'd be worried about it flexing and vibrating at speed. something a simple as a rolled bead or a break in the vertical direction would eliminate it.

Rob Liebbe
01-04-2009, 05:48 PM
Rob, my hardline plumbing to the propvalve was SOOooo fugly I had to do something on this interior refinish. There's 3' max here of line. Maybe just enough to soften a spike?

jb

You'll probably be ok, plus it does look really good. I may have to protest if it ends up acting like an ABS of some sort. 8)

Can't wait to see the finished car.

Adam Ginsberg
01-05-2009, 09:23 AM
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/DSC_0012sm.jpg
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/DSC_0016sm.jpg

The DAQ location is interesting....wouldn't it be better if it were more in your line of sight, say, on the dash? Are you still using the shift light on the DAQ display?

jeffburch
01-05-2009, 11:15 AM
I got rid of the huge tach/shift lite in leu of the little digital style that JW has.
Initially I plan to clamp it around the steering column as normal.
It has setup buttons on the shell that must me accessible, damnit.
I am engineering a mount to put it in the center A/C vent tho.

I don't have a problem with the daq display location.
It's tach/shift lite is a little flaky.

thx,
jb

Wirtz
01-05-2009, 11:36 AM
JB - the car looks like it will be big pimpin. Nice stuff. One comment I saw was it looked like the battery cable on the passenger side is between the cage and body. It is a good practice to move it inboard so it cannot get crushed if that side take a hit, from say.... oh, I dono, a marauding GTA for example? Hey, you never know ;)

jeffburch
01-05-2009, 12:55 PM
Stacy the Marauder!
I like it.

It's fused so I'm not worried.
thx,
jb

Wirtz
01-05-2009, 02:45 PM
It's fused so I'm not worried.


Ahhh, famous last words.... :)

AI#97
01-05-2009, 04:59 PM
Stacy the Marauder!
I like it.

It's fused so I'm not worried.
thx,
jb

Yeah, but let's say she nerfs you and it gets pinched off but could still run and finish the race...but your fuse is blown and you are out of the race. If there is one thing I have learned after letting TWO regional championships slip through my fingers is that you MUST finish ALL the races so you aren't dropping ZERO's... CMC is a little different in that you get credit for taking the green flag whereas in AI, you have to complete 1/2 the laps of the winner or get a big Goose egg!

Just some input...

Wirtz
01-05-2009, 08:07 PM
No no no! Leave it there, it will be fine.

{note to self; aim for just behind the door seam...} :twisted:

Rob Liebbe
01-05-2009, 09:24 PM
{note to self; aim for just behind the door seam...} :twisted:

Yeah, that worked out well for you two seasons ago Wirtz. :roll:

michaelmosty
01-05-2009, 09:57 PM
{note to self; aim for just behind the door seam...} :twisted:

Yeah, that worked out well for you two seasons ago Wirtz. :roll:
Ouch! :P

Wirtz
01-06-2009, 10:44 AM
Yeah yeah. It was supposed to be YOUR door, not mine. Rookie mistake :lol:

Rob Liebbe
01-06-2009, 11:29 AM
You, sir, are no rookie. :D

AllZWay
01-06-2009, 11:39 AM
{note to self; aim for just behind the door seam...} :twisted:

Yeah, that worked out well for you two seasons ago Wirtz. :roll:

Ohhhh...That did leave a mark. :lol:

Alien
01-11-2009, 09:33 PM
http://www.fototime.com/70415B9C2036EAF/orig.jpg


I woulda thought you would have done the panel in black with white lettering. Looks really good though.

mitchntx
01-11-2009, 09:36 PM
:lol:

Wirtz
01-11-2009, 10:24 PM
Thanks awsome Gary. I dig the 1st or 2nd switch. You know, would not want to be too greedy and all....

jeffburch
01-11-2009, 11:06 PM
Damn Gary that's hilarious.


jb



is this spoiler legal?
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/3_Car_Pics/012sm.jpg

will I make it?

Shift lite/tach in the a/c vent

http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/3_Car_Pics/005sm.jpg

David Love AI27
01-12-2009, 08:08 AM
will I make it?


Thought this car was for sale????... I seem to remember seeing it for sale somewhere....

michaelmosty
01-12-2009, 08:37 AM
Awesome work JB!!
You gonna run your "spoiler" like that during a race? :wink:

jeffburch
01-12-2009, 10:08 PM
Thx Mike.
That's my duece spoiler.
NOT!

I mentioned earlier since the required number for the side of the car is a more reasonable 10 inches ( thx AG LOL!) I wanted to do a traditional number plate type thing.

Below is what I'm doing.
The number itself is 10" inside the box.

http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/RRG_stuff/number3sm.jpg

Class designator 5"and front/rear # 4"


http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/RRG_stuff/CMC3.jpg




Thought this car was for sale????... I seem to remember seeing it for sale somewhere....

Still is!

jb

Adam Ginsberg
01-12-2009, 11:08 PM
Below is what I'm doing.
The number itself is 10" inside the box.

http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/RRG_stuff/number3sm.jpg

I am SOOOOO dig'n this, JB. Nice stuff.

Todd Covini
01-12-2009, 11:08 PM
Looks good.
We had traditional number plates in the early years.
I've got photos of my car with them around here somewhere.

Adam Ginsberg
01-12-2009, 11:22 PM
I've got photos of my car with them around here somewhere.

Must have been a static display.

mitchntx
01-13-2009, 07:50 AM
I've got photos of my car with them around here somewhere.

Must have been a static display.

Shot from downtown, rattled the rim and in for 3.

David Love AI27
01-13-2009, 08:02 AM
10" inside the box.



watch your language :twisted:

Al Fernandez
01-13-2009, 08:55 AM
That number plate looks very nice! :D

Wirtz
01-13-2009, 09:28 AM
is this spoiler legal?
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/3_Car_Pics/012sm.jpg


Your car looks to be very excited to go racing ;)

jeffburch
01-17-2009, 09:27 PM
If I only had a bigger garage.
jb





http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/LS6sm.jpg

Al Fernandez
01-18-2009, 01:34 PM
Damn! Who'se is that?

jeffburch
01-18-2009, 04:03 PM
Neighbor. Traded in his two LS7 cars for it.
He still has his Z16 and various others :roll:
That silver with blue made my doo-dad quiver :shock:
jb

AllZWay
01-18-2009, 05:34 PM
TMI...Jeff...but that car is very nice.

jeffburch
01-18-2009, 07:43 PM
:lol:
Sorry.


I'm off to the dyno in the morning.
Happy MLK day to me.
http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/hoohoohooptie.wmv
jb

chris-CMC#35
01-18-2009, 08:10 PM
LOVE the paint job! :lol:

Looks good, Jeff.

mitchntx
01-18-2009, 08:23 PM
"THX STACY"

:lol:

AI#97
01-18-2009, 08:25 PM
:lol:
Sorry.


I'm off to the dyno in the morning.
Happy MLK day to me.
http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/hoohoohooptie.wmv
jb

Only one winner sticker?! :wink:

chris-CMC#35
01-18-2009, 08:29 PM
:lol:
Sorry.


I'm off to the dyno in the morning.
Happy MLK day to me.
http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/hoohoohooptie.wmv
jb

Only one winner sticker?! :wink:

In the RM region, we have to take them all off at the beginning of the next season...

-chris

jeffburch
01-18-2009, 08:34 PM
Only one winner sticker?! :wink:

One on each side is enough I think.
It's hard to be humble.

Only twelve lines of sig? LOL.

jb

AI#97
01-18-2009, 08:38 PM
Only twelve lines of sig? LOL.

jb

Actually, I didn't try any more...maybe I should add a disclaimer?! LOL!

Wirtz
01-18-2009, 09:36 PM
Aerotech hood pins... I hear by pass the mantel of "Pimp" to our very own JB ;)

Looks good JB.

BryanL
01-19-2009, 10:50 PM
JB,

Who is doing your numbers? I would like to get new decals for my car and would like to have the same setup.

Adam Ginsberg
01-19-2009, 11:08 PM
Who is doing your numbers? I would like to get new decals for my car and would like to have the same setup.

I think changing all of our cars to the setup JB posted would look outstanding - same as how World Challenge cars are done.

Todd Covini
01-19-2009, 11:13 PM
Bleh,
That # placard look is sooooo Phoenix circa 1997.

http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/3324/7708/271258.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/3324/7708/271259.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/3324/7708/271260.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/3324/7708/271261.jpg

ShadowBolt
01-20-2009, 08:29 AM
On those cars it looks like $hit.


JJ

Rob Liebbe
01-20-2009, 08:50 AM
I don't care for it either. Seriously.

BlueFirePony
01-20-2009, 05:03 PM
I don't care for it either. Seriously.
I like the design as it stands Jeff - it will look great on your car.

Not so much on my car though.

Hood
01-21-2009, 09:01 AM
GREAT! I don't even have my car here yet and I'm already planning a rewire/repaint on the interior. Thanks alot JB!

jeffburch
01-21-2009, 09:06 PM
I rewired the car because it was a kludge.
2 or 3 dnf's.
The interior was a rattlecan nightmare.
I worked my ass off since the monday after ECR.
The last 3 weeks or so I prioritized and actually came to a realistic conclusion the first event was possible to make.
I dyno'd monday and changed the fluids today.


http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/finalprep.jpg


I have a 2" roll of blue tape for my number on the door.
I have 150 lb's of steel plate ready to bolt down.

http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/Rewards.jpg

I won't be pretty, but I'll make it.
Where's CR, MD, LT, other's??

Mustangs show up if you will, but I'm gonna tear up all your ass's. :lol:


jb

Rob Liebbe
01-21-2009, 09:21 PM
Burch - what's up with the automatic transmission funnel in the pic? Autos are illegal sir. :roll:

jeffburch
01-21-2009, 09:51 PM
How do you get fluid in the tranny?
Turkey baster?
:roll:
jb

mitchntx
01-21-2009, 09:56 PM
When I need the trans fluid changed, I let Todd drive the car.

Adam Ginsberg
01-22-2009, 12:59 AM
How do you get fluid in the tranny?
Turkey baster?
:roll:

I've always filled up the trans by removing the shifter.

Al Fernandez
01-22-2009, 08:46 AM
I dont run fluid in the trans. Its one of my weight saving techniques. 8)

Rob Liebbe
01-22-2009, 09:17 AM
Either through the shifter or I have a cheapy electric oil change pump.

jeffburch
01-22-2009, 09:22 AM
Hmm, I use the fill hole.
It's just above the drain hole.
The funnel has a hose on it.
jb

David Love AI27
01-22-2009, 09:24 AM
tape a piece of hose to the nipple on the bottle, crawl under car, get gear lube everywhere when the hose slips off :? ... Thought everybody did it that way :shock: :shock:

mitchntx
01-22-2009, 09:51 AM
I bought one of these ...

http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=BK&PartNumber=7151245&Description=Suction+Gun

It's kinda messy and only works a pint or so at a time, but it does work without the aid of gravity.

michaelmosty
01-22-2009, 10:27 AM
tape a piece of hose to the nipple on the bottle, crawl under car, get gear lube everywhere when the hose slips off :? ... Thought everybody did it that way :shock: :shock:
That is some funny shit. :lol:

Hood
01-22-2009, 10:36 AM
tape a piece of hose to the nipple on the bottle, crawl under car, get gear lube everywhere when the hose slips off :? ... Thought everybody did it that way :shock: :shock:


You forgot, curse, throw bottle, bang head on subframe connector, curse some more...

Wirtz
01-22-2009, 11:03 AM
Oh yeah. Gary H is gonna fit right in with this group :)

I use the cheapie Harbor Freight version of what Mitch showed. Works ok, minor mess at worse, no real problem.

Hood
01-22-2009, 11:41 AM
I use a pump that I found at AutoZone years ago. It screws into the top of the bottle and has a clear hose with a cool nipple that grabs the inside of the fill hole to keep it from causing those garage slicks.

David Love AI27
01-22-2009, 11:49 AM
tape a piece of hose to the nipple on the bottle, crawl under car, get gear lube everywhere when the hose slips off :? ... Thought everybody did it that way :shock: :shock:


You forgot, curse, throw bottle, bang head on subframe connector, curse some more...

I didn't forget... I assumed we were all racers here and already knew what came next..

AI#97
01-22-2009, 02:12 PM
You guys crack me up! Filled mine in November 2005...haven't even thought about it since! T56's are the bomb!

mitchntx
01-22-2009, 02:23 PM
You guys crack me up! Filled mine in November 2005...haven't even thought about it since! T56's are the bomb!

Or in your case ... a grenade!

AI#97
01-22-2009, 05:09 PM
You guys crack me up! Filled mine in November 2005...haven't even thought about it since! T56's are the bomb!

Or in your case ... a grenade!

Why? I can shift like a God! LOL!

The fluid hasn't even changed color. I opened the fill plug after nationals and the fluid looks perfect. No reason for this tranny to have ANY problems considering it's built for 700hp... Also take into account a T56 holds nearly 2 quarts more than any of the other common trans in this series and fluid is not an issue.

RichardP
01-22-2009, 05:20 PM
No reason for this tranny to have ANY problems considering it's built for 700hp... Also take into account a T56 holds nearly 2 quarts more than any of the other common trans in this series and fluid is not an issue.


And yet you keep wondering aloud where in the heck is there any place to shed more weight???


Richard P.

jeffburch
01-22-2009, 08:32 PM
Gravity is (sometimes) your friend boys & girls!
jb


http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/JeffBurch/gravity_at_work.jpg

mitchntx
01-22-2009, 08:51 PM
Holy cow! That Lowel funnel stand is awesome, JB.

:lol:

AI#97
01-22-2009, 09:00 PM
And yet you keep wondering aloud where in the heck is there any place to shed more weight???


Richard P.

Considering all the problems I have seen with T5 based trannies over the years...you can keep em' for an extra 30lbs. And trust me, this car is closer to weight than it has ever been, if not a little under right now. I tallied up 54lbs as of this morning that won't be getting hauled around anymore. I am getting to a point where I can put ballast in the car where I want it. Considering I was running 200lbs over weight last year except for nats and ECR... I think I am doing OK... :wink:

jeffburch
01-22-2009, 09:01 PM
Holy cow! That Lowel funnel stand is awesome, JB.

:lol:



:lol:
jb

Adam Ginsberg
01-24-2009, 05:10 AM
Over the past few days, #5 has been treated/will be treated to the following "freshening/updates":

New rear main seal
New pilot shaft bushing
New clutch/PP/TOB
New TKOII trans
New driveshaft
New bellhousing, block plate and fork

Still to be completed (some items in this list are due to going back to full CMC specs):
New motor mounts
New exhaust (fifth different exhaust system in this car!!)
New exhaust gaskets (stock headers being reinstalled)
New intake gaskets (original CMC spec intake being reinstalled)
Flushed and clean the radiator
12" rotors being reinstalled
Oil and filter change
Fuel filter change
Rear gear fluid change
New brake lines
Brake fluid flush
Tune up (plus, wires, cap, rotor)
Dyno

JB's not the only one getting ready for 2009. :)

marshall_mosty
01-24-2009, 09:29 AM
Still to be completed (some items in this list are due to going back to full CMC specs):
12" rotors being reinstalled
Didn't you do the TCE aluminum hat rotor set a few years ago? Are you still using them?

ShadowBolt
01-24-2009, 12:22 PM
Still to be completed (some items in this list are due to going back to full CMC specs):
12" rotors being reinstalled
Didn't you do the TCE aluminum hat rotor set a few years ago? Are you still using them?

You are correct Marshall. I've talked to Todd at TCE and he told me Adam purchased these from him.

JJ

Adam Ginsberg
01-24-2009, 02:26 PM
Yes, I've used the TCE rotor hats/2-piece setup. Where do you think Todd got this picture for his website:

http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/images/Mustan2.jpg

;)

Right now, they're sitting in my spares box - both rotors are cracked.

Rob Liebbe
01-24-2009, 03:16 PM
So why aren't you using new rotor sections from instead of off the shelf parts?

AI#97
01-24-2009, 03:57 PM
Still to be completed (some items in this list are due to going back to full CMC specs):
12" rotors being reinstalled
Didn't you do the TCE aluminum hat rotor set a few years ago? Are you still using them?

I run the same setup, although with 13" rotors and love em. BIG braking improvement and I have gotten them so hot, they are purple and the anodizing has burned off the hats... :oops:

Adam Ginsberg
01-24-2009, 10:45 PM
So why aren't you using new rotor sections from instead of off the shelf parts?

The Coleman rings only lasted ~2 seasons. They cracked at BMP in Oct 2006, IIRC. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of using the Coleman rotors if they don't last very long. It's possible I didn't season them correctly.

Cost to replace is $300 a pair. The CV rotors are only ~$90 a pair.

Once I finish selling a bunch of my stuff, I'll try another set of Colemans, and do a better job seasoning them.

AI#97
01-25-2009, 09:16 AM
So why aren't you using new rotor sections from instead of off the shelf parts?

The Coleman rings only lasted ~2 seasons. They cracked at BMP in Oct 2006, IIRC. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of using the Coleman rotors if they don't last very long. It's possible I didn't season them correctly.

Cost to replace is $300 a pair. The CV rotors are only ~$90 a pair.

Once I finish selling a bunch of my stuff, I'll try another set of Colemans, and do a better job seasoning them.

Did you use the thinner ring or the thicker ring option? If I get two season out of them I will be VERY Happy!!!

Adam Ginsberg
01-25-2009, 09:55 AM
Did you use the thinner ring or the thicker ring option? If I get two season out of them I will be VERY Happy!!!

Thicker rings.

jeffburch
02-15-2009, 08:06 PM
http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/007sm.jpg




http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/008sm.jpg

Rob Liebbe
02-15-2009, 10:43 PM
I like it! Looks like a Whale Shark. Put the stickers on it and be done.

jeffburch
02-16-2009, 07:55 AM
I was thinking shark as well.
I used green because it's bad luck on a car.
Motivation to get it all off.
HELP!
jb

mitchntx
02-16-2009, 08:17 AM
Another shade of green and 2 or 3 shades of brown and you could have a camo-car!

Nicely done, JB ...

silversvo
03-04-2009, 07:55 PM
JB,

I was in town on the 21st and 22nd but I didnt have enough time to stop by. I was going to call you and see how everything has been going but I had the wife and daughter with me and we were just passing through.. you look like you have been really busy with the car. Tell Bev I said hello and I will call you later.
Troy

jeffburch
03-04-2009, 09:16 PM
Ahhh man!
Cheat me outta seeing your new one and then tell me after the fact :? .
Good to hear from ya.
Hope to see ya soon.
jb

jeffburch
03-10-2009, 02:30 PM
ahhhhhhhhh!
Nuthin' like a pound glass of Colorado Koolaid with a little 'mater juice.
Here's my view at the moment.


http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/pics/067sm.jpg


Of course, here is ya'lls view LOL

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/pics/039sm.jpg


...and the new log book photos
jb


http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/pics/007sm.jpg
http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/jeff/pics/034sm.jpg

ShadowBolt
03-10-2009, 02:44 PM
Looks good JB..



JJ

Rob Liebbe
03-10-2009, 03:17 PM
after Cresson

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/Liebbe/Burchbump.jpg

BlueFirePony
03-10-2009, 03:31 PM
ROFLMAO

nice work JB....

<wipes tears from eyes>

I think there is a need for some blue on the left...I see a spot there for my car to make an impression too :)

mitchntx
03-10-2009, 03:31 PM
Mr. Clean!

Have I told you that white cars are faster than those with pigment?

Alien
03-10-2009, 03:40 PM
Another white third gen? :roll:

Is Burch trying to blend in wik rookies Nick V and Greg H?
:D

evarner
03-10-2009, 03:49 PM
Looks great!! Nice job JB!!

Rsmith350
03-10-2009, 08:43 PM
Good lord! our cars are gonna look like a yen/yang LOL

If I ever finish it that is

Nice job JB!!!! Didn't know "Gandalf the white" had a race car :lol:

jeffburch
03-10-2009, 08:55 PM
Thanks all.
She finally has a name.
Jane, as in plain Jane.
Plain ol' Jane


jb

ps
wasn't Gandalf a poofter?
maybe just the actor was :roll:

AI#97
03-10-2009, 09:40 PM
Thanks all.
She finally has a name.
Jane, as in plain Jane.
Plain ol' Jane
jb

ps
wasn't Gandalf a poofter?
maybe just the actor was :roll:

The actor was a peter puffer....the character molested young boys and hobits! LOL!!!

Jeff, the car looks great! However, I hope you don't tire of the "plainess" as I have with my solid silver POS...

AllZWay
03-10-2009, 09:48 PM
after Cresson

http://www.argentlab.com/nasatx/Liebbe/Burchbump.jpg

Good stuff Rob... :lol:

Todd Covini
03-10-2009, 09:56 PM
Mr. Clean!

Have I told you that white cars are piggy-er than those that are faster?

FIXED

Guess the black/red Varvini marks are on the front, huh, Liebbe?

Anyway, great job JB. I love the look. Reminds me of the old IROC racecars with monochromatic paint.

michaelmosty
03-10-2009, 10:13 PM
The yellow Corey mark must be down the entire passenger side. :lol:

Rob Liebbe
03-10-2009, 10:36 PM
The yellow Corey mark must be down the entire passenger side. :lol:

Corey Who?

And Todd, cars that are faster than Burch bump him from behind, those that are slower get their paint on his front bumper. It's a Physics thing.

David Love AI27
03-10-2009, 10:49 PM
The yellow Corey mark must be down the entire passenger side. :lol:

Corey Who?

And Todd, cars that are faster than Burch bump him from behind, those that are slower get their paint on his front bumper. It's a Physics thing.

DO NOT bring up the name Cory to Jason... I have NEVER seen him this pissed off at anyone... if you look at the thumbnail photos from the lemon penalties, Jason is in the one where the judge is leaning in the car... Jay would barely spoke, just sat there

David Love AI27
03-10-2009, 11:01 PM
http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/LTX09PenaltyWrap/1007513987

Judge: "Well, what did you do?"

Jay: "I dunno"

Judge: "Why did they black flag you?"

Jay: "I dunno"

Judge walked away, Jay gets out of car, I walk up and ask "Whad ya do?", answer "F@CK CORY", I walk away

Wirtz
03-11-2009, 02:06 AM
Guess the black/red Varvini marks are on the front, huh, Liebbe?


Nope, across the roof :shock: