Class Spec discussion

A 1.6 roller rocker and maybe a cam may fix my problem.


jb

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Originally Posted by Rsmith350

This comes at a really bad time for me. My motor is in the shop right now getting freshened up and I just spent a bunch of money trying to keep my third gen as stock as possible. So basically I have to stop everything I'm doing right now except for body work........... :evil:

Damn!! and I just got started again :cry:

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Don't stop. Forge ahead and come go racing.

I've had a few conversations with other racers since Hallett about how competitive and segregated we've become. Maybe there was something to Eric's arguements that we're tearing ourselves apart at the seams.

Newbs were asking experienced racers questions and told to 'go away, you bother me, boy' kind of responses.

We all know winning is a blast. But just competing is where it's at. You don't have to kill the car or the racer next to you to have a shit-load of fun.

Just come out and enjoy racing. getting all hyped and driven to win makes your ego inflate beyond bandwidth capacities. 8)

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Originally Posted by Wirtz

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.... 17's weigh more but have more grip, what will the result be???

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From my experience, this is one of the things that bugs me the most about the changes. Many of you know I used to race ITS, and we could run a 7" rim and any tire you could squeeze onto it. Any race car is fun to drive, but it turned the cars into little grip buggies, waayyy over tired. Maybe the saving grace here will be the still spec Toyo.

Jeff

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Hallett was my first weekend on 17s. The 17" wheel/tire package weighs more than the 16" and I could feel the difference exiting the corner. Throttle response just wasn't "crisp".

But going back and looking, my best laptime was over 2 seconds faster than last year. That makes me 1 second off the CMC pace. :roll:

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Originally Posted by mitchntx

We all know winning is a blast. But just competing is where it's at. You don't have to kill the car or the racer next to you to have a shit-load of fun.

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This is true to a certain extent. But I can tell you, having raced in Texas with 180hp and then at Hallett with 223hp: if your car doesn't have competitive numbers, there is a very limited amount of fun you can have...

-chris

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Originally Posted by Wirtz

Many of you know I used to race ITS

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AH HA!! so you're the one who brought the SCCA rules creep to NASA!
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Originally Posted by Wirtz

I dono, maybe I need to go look into rally instead....

Jeff

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I have a set of 4 KC Daylighters from the Monza rallycar I may sell ya... be be warned, gravel and dirt roads are hell on paint :D

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Originally Posted by Rob Liebbe

The spectators cant tell CMC and AI apart now. Oh wait - what spectators?

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Yeah, as hinted in another thread, pretty sad when 3 weeks of prep for a car show and burn out contest with some fireworks draws 1200 times more than a race weekend can.... :cry:

Not to mention that when looking for sponsors to fund this little habit, you have to agree that the most exposure they will get is while on the trailer on the way to the track...guess that's why I don't have the enclosed trailer anymore! :oops:

Guess my dream of being BIGGER than just MFW is fizzling! :lol:

Yup.
You have to ask yourself; how would a Humpy Wheeler promote a bunch like us?

jb

I was ticked off when CMC2 was created....and this just adds fuel to that old fire.

I expected this day to come, but I was not ever looking forward to being AI-lite.

I am lucky in that my car is a simple pull of the resctrictor, so I don't have a complaint as much as the Fox's and 3rd gens do, but I see new wheels and bigger brakes in the future. :evil:

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Originally Posted by jeffburch

Yup.
You have to ask yourself; how would a Humpy Wheeler promote a bunch like us?

jb

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I do, at least 4 times a month.

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Originally Posted by AllZWay

I was ticked off when CMC2 was created....and this just adds fuel to that old fire.

I expected this day to come, but I was not ever looking forward to being AI-lite.

I am lucky in that my car is a simple pull of the resctrictor, so I don't have a complaint as much as the Fox's and 3rd gens do, but I see new wheels and bigger brakes in the future. :evil:

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For a series marketed as simple and stable, it sure has been a bumpy few years.