Glenn, we shouldn't have done the nationals dude.
Getting our asses handed to us on a chrystal platter ruined it for some here in Tx.
jb
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Glenn, we shouldn't have done the nationals dude.
Getting our asses handed to us on a chrystal platter ruined it for some here in Tx.
jb
But Eric, are you not doing the same thing by proclaiming "change the rules or I quit?"Quote:
Originally Posted by CMC17
I didn't race at MSR-C and had a great time working with you trouble-shooting your spark plug.
When I show up to race, I know I stand no chance at winning unless someone else has misfortune. But winning isn't the reason I show up.
I show up to help folks trouble-shoot spark plug issues ...
Any one who has any trend or QA auditing experience knows you can't take such a narrow slice in time and make far-reaching conclusions.
My Dad always said what goes around, comes around.
As a concession, I too find it odd that some in Ford camp can find "the number" and others can't. That just doesn't make sense to me.
Consider for a moment that Texas CMC has risen as the cream of the crop as far as competitiveness goes. It was proven at Nationals and backed up at Road Atlanta.
You, my friend, are responsible for raising the bar high.
Time for me to move on. I wish for everyone to be safe and enjoy what they like to do.
I'm far too competitive to run around the track knowing I don't stand a chance of winning and looks like I'm doing all of this for the wrong reasons.
Thank you to those that have taken a grass roots sport and turned it into a wallet/time sink to be competitive. :roll:
I'm sure there will eventually be someone to come along with a bigger wallet and start winning. That will only lead to other's to put more time/money in their ride and the cycle repeats.
Yep - No room at the inn for me anymore.
Camaro-Camaro-Challenge will live on, I'm sure.
It's been fun, Eric.
Stop in from time to time and let us know how the ball room dancing is coming along. :wink:
I've said this myself recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
It's your fault (credit) Eric.
jb
I'll keep this short because I don't have much to say.
First off, I personally think both camps are correct; to a point.
At this point in the CMC world it's fair to say:
Eric Varner is one of the few who we can all admit has gotten all out of a Fox platform that can be had. Let's face it, there are certainly no leaps and bounds left as has been experienced by the GM platforms in recent seasons. Everything gets compaired to his single Mustang because he the most experienced driver who has put in the most effort. Discounting this point is an insult to the man and his accomplishments.
Glenn and Jeff live and breath CMC and the laptimes show it. Jeff took a CA car that was supposed to be good and changed it until it was Texas good. Glenn and Mitch did the same thing with there platform.
With these two points in mind, I ask this, "Why is it so hard to believe that when each platform gets developed to it's potential and driven properly, a lack of parity may emerge."
It seems to me that CMC TX has progressed to the point where both platforms have been developed to or near to their potentials. The bar is being set here for the rest of the country. Likewise, rule changes and input should be spoken loudly from here in TX. California can't make rules regarding parity when thier platforms are not fully developed. So remember, present rules were written by guys driving cars that were less than fully developed.
I have not the experience to honestly make a judgment either way. I only believe that the GM's are faster when fully developed because the GM guys keep telling me so and then proving it on track. What some are typing is not what they honestly believe. Or maybe they feal it is an insult to their accplishments to admit publically that just maybe...
We see ourselves as the emerging CMC cream of the country and to provide guildance for our series' future, we'll need more open discussion than what is taking place. If we can't visit the issues without tossing hands up in frustration and beating fist on statistics, then what the hell good are we?
Boudy
OK .. I'm done.
When reason and logic mix with emotion and ego, things go to hell in a hand basket.
I requested that you people refrain from using reason, facts and logic a long time ago. Apparently, that can't happen.
There is a vast disparity in logic platforms. So, until there are some rules changed, I'm out.
8)
Parity schmarity.
Platform, or the man?
Balls?
12" brakes, are just 12" brakes.
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/...ssing_DIVX.avi
http://www.texicanracing.com/nasatx/...ch_divx_MQ.avi
jb
Eric, i honestly think you have gotten all you can out of your car in current form. i dont think the platform is maxed out. prove to me where you have maxed out the limits of shocks, the limits of aero, the limits of weight distribution in the car.
i also think you are wrong in your assesment of cubic dollars in the GM cars.
i put $850 in my motor. not rebuilding one, i bought a $850 motor back in '04. my rebuild cost $1700. thats all the money i put in my motor since i started racing. i picked up a $300 body shell. i got a $750 paint job. $100 in 12 OEM wheels. the list goes on. i dropped $700 on my front shock set-up. the shocks themselves are $159 each from Day Motorsports. i get my springs from them too.
i've done 2 practice days and 1 test day in 2.5 seasons.
where is the money in my set-up?
brakes? nope. run the very same calipers since day one backin '05. not even rebuilt them once yet. i bought 4 rotors in 2.5 years. i had a used front hub fail, 1 used hub.
sorry, it cost me $10K to build my car and get all my safery gear. suit and all. i race on about $4-5K per year total for all race related costs.
i dont see it.
the $100,000 question is, what is it w/ the GM's that gives them an advantage? what adjustment do you think they need? Eric?