Congrats to the new directors......and GOOD LUCK! :lol:
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Congrats to the new directors......and GOOD LUCK! :lol:
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What???? C'mon, Kevin. You can play too! :o
Get that old Camaro back!!!
Sorry if I stepped on any toes...the purpose of my rant earlier was that we need to set goals and work towards the future to achieve them.
"AI/CMC/GPC/ETC Texas" is just too long of a series name....we've got to stick to our core...and that's AI/CMC Texas! :wink:
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I am just funnin' with you Todd.
But seriously on some of the other posts and rants... I came to RACE! We ALL came to RACE
I'm going to say this in my typical "It is what it is" style - no BS, no hidden agenda, no politics.
Politics, from my experience in the working and racing world, typically only help the ones that need it the least, but insist they are helping others out....those "others" are the ones who always get the short end of the stick when politics takes over.
To begin with, I wasn't speaking directly to you Mike, but to the group at large.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Bell
That said, yes - this group has, at times, a short memory. That, coupled with rookie racers that have an aire of "knowing it all" - hell, they've got X-number of years in OT or AX, and they've raced for a season, so they must know everything. They speak for the entire group on how things "should be". Rookies come into the series and make demands without understanding where we've been, where we are going, or our history - it's happened every single year in this region.
Yes - flip flop. Need an example??? Not long ago, a few members of this group were vehemently opposed to a 40min race...."AI cars can't last 40min!", "It's too hard on the driver!", "It's dangerous!", "It's too hard on parts!" Now, folks like racing them ( granted, not in August ). Flip-flop.Quote:
But body-slamming us on a flip flop? Where's the flip-flop here? G5 and NO G8 - simple.
Each year, we've had flip-flops due to one or two folks who demand change for their own personal benefit or reason(s), and whip the AI/CMC Texas group into a frenzy. Each flip flop is easy to figure out - do some research on this message board, or on the original YahooGroups mailing list.
It's been detrimental to the group each time it's happened. We lose momentum in accomplishing our goals - something that always happens when people use politics to get their way. Read into that statement any way you wish - it's not directed at any one particular person. If you feel it's aimed at you ( meaning, not necessarily you Mike, but you in the general sense ), then you feel a sense of guilt for doing exactly what I described above.
That caveat was always in place - to help NASA when needed. It's not surprising you didn't hear about it Mike - you weren't at all the events. It was discussed at more than one driver meeting.Quote:
First I've heard of this caveat thing, guess I needed to read the fine print.
That is not a viable reason - it's a lame excuse.Quote:
G8 drivers don't know us, don't know who's in CMC vs AI vs AIX much less who the CMC points leaders may or may not be so how COULD IT HAVE GONE ANY DIFFERENTLY?
During the Nats, there were 62 cars in the AIX, AI and CMC run group. Within a day, I made sure I knew what cars were in each class - by the Sunday championship race, when I saw a car in my mirror, I knew who they were, how fast they'd been, about where in the field they were, and made sure to give them room whenever I could. I knew who the fast and slow AI and AIX cars were - and whether or not they'd pass me, or I'd pass them ( the WC 4th gen Camaro comes to mind.... ).
It's called RACING IN A GROUP WITH DIFFERENT CLASSES. It's each drivers responsibility to know who is in their run group, how fast they are vs. yourself, and at about what point in the race they are going to pass you, or you're going to pass them.
See my point above. When a G8 driver sees a Mustang, Camaro, or Firebird in their mirror, they should know they aren't racing that car - period. Hell, we make it as easy as possible for them - all of our cars have either CMC or AI on the windshield!Quote:
How could we expect a G8 driver to lift or backoff when they have no chance of knowing who the points leaders are in a respective class?
Sure that would work. However, we may have to share our run group to help NASA make up time - I don't like it any more than you do, and am opposed to it. Get used to the idea.Quote:
Keeping G5 and G8 seperate will work.
No shit, Kevin - why do you think we're here?Quote:
Originally Posted by TEXAST1
Look - you're a good guy and enjoy hanging out with you at the track, but.....if you want to race your Vette against other evenly matched competitors, build GPC the way we built AI and CMC, and you'll have it. We spent 3 years getting our class where it is today so that we could race in our own run group, against other class competitors.
It's not our ( AI and CMC's ) responsibility to make sure you have traffic to "make yourself a better driver". If you want to race against AI and CMC cars - build a class legal pony car, and bring it to the track.
Now...to get back on track regarding race lengths.....
Realistically - I don't give a shit about race lengths. 20, 30 or 40min - just quit bench racing on the intarnet, stop the whining, get off your asses....and get out and race.
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Probably right. No one has proof except for a single individual.
I'm just tired of being judged and called out when glass houses have the shades drawn.
Does this new section of the CMC rules mean there is a teardown rule in place now??
Glenn or Todd, can you give your input? Am I reading too much into this new statement?Quote:
7.7.3 Inspection and Testing
To help reduce the cost of competition and provide for simple and fair technical inspections, NASA shall use chassis dynamometer testing as the main means of engine inspection in the CMC series.
NASA tech inspectors and CMC Officials have the right to inspect anything in sight at any time the vehicle is at the track. NASA tech inspectors and CMC Officials shall have the right to request disassembly or any other procedure required to verify vehicle compliance with these rules including a dynamometer re-certification.
I was wondering the same thing Mike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Bell
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