40 minute races for 2007?

yes. no heads will be removed, no intakes will be removed, no oil pans will be removed. everything can be checked w/ those limits.
the first release for the '07 rules had a clause in it the said "no major engine teardown would be done". i just looked and i cant find it. they will/can/and have removed valve covers to check lift/duration. they can check engine vacuum. they can check fuel pressure. basically nothing has changed since last year.

dont take my word on this as official yet. i'll let Todd and Al give the final word. i did talk about this w/ them last friday. looks like the rules were changed durring final release.

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Originally Posted by mitchntx

Probably right. No one has proof except for a single individual.

I'm just tired of being judged and called out when glass houses have the shades drawn.

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All I'll respond to here is.....I wasn't judging any one individual, least of all you, Mitch.

The no-teardown rule in CMC generally still applies but now has some sideboards to reflect what we've been doing since day one.

Basically, anything on your dyno sheet to get you to your # can be verified.

So...if tech needs to verify that you've got your 30MM restrictor plate in place...they can...without a teardown.

If tech needs to verify that your choked off air filter is in place...they can...without a teardown.

If tech needs to inspect something to verify your dynosheet is accurate...they can...without a teardown.

We just needed to clarify that in the rules to assure that folks aren't hiding behind the "no teardown" rule and mis-interpreting what it means. Hope that helps...

-=- Todd

Adam...we heard you but you're coming in a little scratchy & chided. May want to move the microphone away from your mouth a little bit to see if that works. :wink:

-=- Todd

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Originally Posted by Todd Covini

The no-teardown rule in CMC generally still applies but now has some sideboards to reflect what we've been doing since day one.

Basically, anything on your dyno sheet to get you to your # can be verified.

So...if tech needs to verify that you've got your 30MM restrictor plate in place...they can...without a teardown.

If tech needs to verify that your choked off air filter is in place...they can...without a teardown.

If tech needs to inspect something to verify your dynosheet is accurate...they can...without a teardown.

We just needed to clarify that in the rules to assure that folks aren't hiding behind the "no teardown" rule and mis-interpreting what it means. Hope that helps...

-=- Todd

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Todd, actually it clouds things even more for me since your post and Glenn's don't seem to be in sync:

What does removing valve covers have to do with anything on the dyno sheet?
Are you going to be removing exhaust manifolds?
Anything else subject to "removal" without it being a "teardown"???

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Originally Posted by Todd Covini

If tech needs to verify that your choked off air filter is in place...they can...without a teardown.

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7.7.2 Horsepower/Torque and Minimum Weight

Cars may install a restrictor plate between the air filter and intake manifold to reduce horsepower and torque. The diameter of the restrictor plate orifice(s) shall be noted on the Dyno Sheet and must match at all times. Any other parts or components on the vehicle that are different than OEM stock and affect power must be explicitly allowed by these rules and must be noted on the Dyno Sheet.

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According to that rule, a "choked off air filter" is not allowed. The restriction has to be between the filter and intake.

Are restrictors on five liter cars legal?

jb

7.2.2 just says "cars" ...

But it also says "The diameter of the restrictor plate orifice(s) shall be noted on the Dyno Sheet and must match at all times." which tells me it has to be noted, labeled and rigid in order to maintain the size.

Jeff, Mitch, you're both right. Any car can have a restrictor. If you have a restrictor it has to maintain its size (no flexible restrictors, no butterflies, no sillyness) and be able to be verified (dyno sheet Vs hardware in a post race inspection).

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Originally Posted by TEXAST1

But seriously on some of the other posts and rants... I came to RACE! We ALL came to RACE

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No shit, Kevin - why do you think we're here?

Look - you're a good guy and enjoy hanging out with you at the track, but.....if you want to race your Vette against other evenly matched competitors, build GPC the way we built AI and CMC, and you'll have it. We spent 3 years getting our class where it is today so that we could race in our own run group, against other class competitors.

It's not our ( AI and CMC's ) responsibility to make sure you have traffic to "make yourself a better driver". If you want to race against AI and CMC cars - build a class legal pony car, and bring it to the track.

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Adam, I guess you read my statement wrong. My intention was that some of the posts seem whinie.

But since you mentioned it, I disagree, I don't think everyone came to race or their posts don't read that way.

Point is that everyone can benefit from having a larger group of cars to run against. Makes eveyone a better driver not just me.
I just get lonely. :wink: