Rule of the Day - Double Yellow Flags

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03-25-2009, 11:18 AM
ShadowBolt

If we are not going to slow way down we may as well race in all but the area where the problem is (single yellow rules). To me it (the DY) does nothing if we are going to run 9 tents waiting for the problem to go away. If the tow truck has to come on track to go get Jeremy and someone misses the Swiss the potential for hurting someone is greater than if we are all out there going 5 tents. What is gained by going at racing speeds? Had I understood better I could have easily stayed with James until we were green again. All I want now is to understand what is correct. I can tell you that if I have corner workers at every station trying to get me to slow down I will continue to do what they want. Maybe there is something they know that race controll does not know yet and they are trying to help me. If it causes me to lose a position or two in the race....so be it. If you are behind me you will get screwed.

JJ
03-25-2009, 11:23 AM
rpoz27

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Originally Posted by mitchntx

Yes, I heard Clifton say that track rules require a DY when an extraction is in progress. And MSRC is the only track that has that administrative rule and it's probably driven by insurance.

Could also be based on worker complaints. If rescue at TWS felt at risk because a group of drivers weren't slowing appropriately, we would change our policy on extractions for that group.
03-25-2009, 11:24 AM
evarner

What was the radio chatter like during the double yellow? Were the corner workers reporting in that no one is slowing down even though all of them were pushing their hands down as we passed 'em in a motion as to indicate "slow the hell down"?

Everywhere I've read and learned since 2001 regarding double yellow's is to slow down and no passing. Do I need to relearn this rule?

I agree that my threshold is much lower. But, when a DY is out, we should all be on the same page. Is it worth running 9/10ths? Are we putting racing above safety? Seeing a rule or event change due to a tragic accident isn't what this series is about. We need to be proactive not reactive.

If I'm lagging behind mentally and you guys have this figured out, please accept my apology. 8)
03-25-2009, 11:40 AM
rpoz27

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Originally Posted by evarner

What was the radio chatter like during the double yellow? Were the corner workers reporting in that no one is slowing down even though all of them were pushing their hands down as we passed 'em in a motion as to indicate "slow the hell down"?

I don't recall any workers reporting anything about you guys going too fast. They did the "slow the hell down" gesture any time there was a DY.
03-25-2009, 11:47 AM
evarner

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Originally Posted by rpoz27

Quote:

Originally Posted by evarner

What was the radio chatter like during the double yellow? Were the corner workers reporting in that no one is slowing down even though all of them were pushing their hands down as we passed 'em in a motion as to indicate "slow the hell down"?

I don't recall any workers reporting anything about you guys going too fast. They did the "slow the hell down" gesture any time there was a DY.

Thanks. :D

I'm sure this is being discussed and we will have a resolution in short order.
03-25-2009, 12:02 PM
jeffburch

Whatever happened to the info broadcast :?:

:x

jb
03-25-2009, 12:39 PM
Rob Liebbe

I saw Clifton walking through the grid prior to one of our races motioning to each car if they were on the safety broadcast radio. It didn't look to me like he got a single positiive response. I know that I gave up on it a while ago.
03-25-2009, 01:33 PM
mitchntx

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Originally Posted by jeffburch

Whatever happened to the info broadcast :?:

:x

jb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Liebbe

I saw Clifton walking through the grid prior to one of our races motioning to each car if they were on the safety broadcast radio. It didn't look to me like he got a single positiive response. I know that I gave up on it a while ago.

JB ... you crack me up ...

RL ... it's circus. Now, Clifton is saying "I tried the IB at Cresson and no one was on it, so why bother?"

And we all went through all the hoopla to install radios, do a comm check, put on all the gear only to hear white noise. So why bother?

Consistency ...
03-25-2009, 03:24 PM
Waco Racer

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Originally Posted by mitchntx

RL ... it's circus. Now, Clifton is saying "I tried the IB at Cresson and no one was on it, so why bother?"

Don't put words in my mouth.
03-25-2009, 04:00 PM
mitchntx

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Originally Posted by Waco Racer

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchntx

RL ... it's circus. Now, Clifton is saying "I tried the IB at Cresson and no one was on it, so why bother?"

Don't put words in my mouth.

Must ... resist ... response ....

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