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Originally Posted by mitchntx
Mitch, I thought you were a member of NAMBLA?
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
Mitch, I thought you were a member of NAMBLA?
Sorry if I'm a little late - I've been travelling this week.
Class naming everything the same ala AI 1-2-3 seems a lot more confusing than something with different names like Camaro-Mustang-Challenge and Americon Iron to me.
Seems like we're back to square one with three viable classes - CMC - CMC2 - and AI.
When are the rules coming out again? Jerry is itching to bend 'em and Burch is itching to kick everyone's ass with his same old original intent CMC car. Heck, I even gave the CMC2 guys a run for their money in a CMC Fox body for Pete's sake.
Bring on 2009!!!!!!!!
LOL, yep put that reactor in somebody elses back yard.... LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
I'm still gonna build what I want and let yous guys tell me what class I'm in... don't really care about no stinkin' rules, jus wanna run with the V-8 muscle cars!!! like JB said, thats what brings 'em to the fences...
Need to re-read your yearbook. Won't see my picture in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by cjlmlml
Reactors and nuclear waste disposal sites are OK, cockroaches aren't, though. 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by David Love AI27
Reactors and nuclear waste disposal sites are OK, cockroaches aren't, though. 8)[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx[quote="David Love AI27
Neather the reactor or the waste can kill one...
I'm not itching to bend the rules but I had not heard a thing about what direction we were going. I may go CMC-2 if there are more cars in that class. Either way Team Jordan gave up almost 30 ft. lbs. of tq. in 08 and we are not going to do that again in 09. It may not make any difference in where we finish but it gets old getting pulled by every car on the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Liebbe
Any ideas on what help the Mustang is going to get?
I need all the help I can get.
JJ
I thought this was clarified in another thread. My understanding is that the 5.0L guys aren't getting ANY help hp wise (well nothing dramatic like headers or a cam) for the 2009 season for CMC-2. If the directors knew what would work to get up to 260hp, they wouldn't have pushed back the transfer date. If you go run in -2 next year, you WILL get pulled on even harder with the 4th gen guys (since we don't have any 4.6s) running 260hp.
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http://www.aicmctexas.com/forums/vie...256&highlight=
the CMC and CMC-2 merge has been nix'ed. for 2009 - nothing will change for CMC (hp/weight wise). my bet is most all folks will stay CMC for as long as they can. Jerry, i was down almost 15hp. that will change for 2009 for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien
Gary...not true. The rules will clearly state that 302/305 cars wanting to run in cmc2 will be allowed to run parts not specified in the rules in order to reach the power numbers as long as the parts in question are cleared with the directors ahead of time. This is the test mule program which will be defined in a rules supplement document. Its going to take some experimentation, no way around that. Through testing we will develop the list of allowances that will formally be incorporated into the rules. Anyone that wants to is welcome to participate.
If Mitch and Steve stay in cmc2 then that makes four cmc2 cars counting Bryan and Chuck's LS1 cars. I'll for sure run cmc2 if there are four cars there to round out the toyo bucks (glenn is taking good care of my new/old ss ten spokes!)...might stay there all year though. 8)
Glenn...for clarity, the merger was never scheduled to happen in 2009.
I guess since they are going to let CMC slowly die off they will never again look at trying to get the cars even. I (and other Fox drivers) assumed we were going to get some kind of help. I know I read where Tony said we (Fox drivers) were going to be very happy with the changes in the rules to help our car. That is what I've been waiting on. I guess I should have known it was a bunch of BS!Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
JJ.
I think we're on the same page, I was just too lazy to retype it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Fernandez
From the other thread I linked... :wink:
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Originally Posted by Alien
Al, note the period before the 2009. learn to read.
for the Fox, i'm not entirely sure the weight will not drop to 3100. i know that is the case for CMC-2, not sure about CMC. so its not BS. at the time this was decided we didnt know the merg was gonna be stopped.
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Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
Thanks for the info Glen. I doubt I can get our Fox down to 3100 with my fat ass in it. I will say I have no idea what CMC17 weighs. Since we did not finish high enough to have to weigh after a race we only weighed when everyone did. Everytime we weighed the car was heaver than the time before even though I have been removing weight all year.
If we get to go down to 3100 I know that is going to scare the $hit out of all you GM guys! I'm sure that is all we needed to win every race.
JJ
Jerry, "IF" the fox goes down to 3100 you'll be at the minimum weight also. I'll touch base with you and we can fo over the car and get every little thing out of it to get her down to weight.
I thought I had mine super low and was still able to get out about 35 lbs. of extra shit last year.
I'm telling you guys that an extra 20HP only makes a difference on very long straights. And I can count the number of very long straights we run at on Bryan's hand with fingers left over.
I think Al was surprised he was unable to just "walk the field" when he pulled his restrictor at ECR. CONSERVATIVELY, he was 260/300 and mine is 247/302. No one saw me or him running away with anything this year, did you?
At this weight and at this level of grip, it's just not a significant enough change to make a difference in the big picture.
No need to panic and think major changes have to take place, regardless of the group you run with.