I got plenty, at least 9:Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
7.23. Ignition
7.23.1 Any spark plugs and ignition wires may be used.
I say more standing starts more often.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
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I got plenty, at least 9:Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
7.23. Ignition
7.23.1 Any spark plugs and ignition wires may be used.
I say more standing starts more often.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
Standing starts for invert races??? Hmmmmm.
May as well go ahead and place AI behind CMC2 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by marshall_mosty
we should do a full field invert at TWS......
It was a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonLiiR
We quit doing those a long time ago for contact reasons.
With the new "NO CONTACT ALLOWED" rules, a full invert would be safer than ever. Gives the new guys experience of having to watch their mirrors for out of class cars and gives the fast guys experience of having to watch their mirrors for out of class cars...Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
The back of the CMC-2 pack at MSR-C was very well behaved when I caught up to them... not even a hint of possible contact.
Now Glenn, I know you just built the car and all, but it wouldn't be TWS without you going full tilt, 4 tires smoking past turn-in... Makes full inverts seem like childs play... I kid, I kid.... 8)
It is funny how you guys think the rules prevent contact.
It only defines the penalty.
Maybe the consequences need to be doubled or tripled so that those who don't see cause and effect finally do.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
what about the straight between T2 and T3 for a standing start location - you can see that really well from the "stands"
One thing to consider is that TWS has a looong out lap. To go out, make a lap plus three corners, get lined up is going to take a bit of time.
Maybe we can cut across at 3-4 to 10 on the out lap?
Now you're thinking. More green flag time is good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien
We do that at Miller when running the full 4.5 mile track. Talk about a freaking LONG pace lap. It takes 5 minutes off the session.
The only reason I really like to have a field do a whole lap is if the track condition has changes like if the prior session oiled down the whole back section and there is oil dry everywhere.
Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
Smart driving, awareness, lack of ego (oops wrong crowd :lol:), patience and wisdom prevents contact.
Part of the reason I am such a stickler for getting body contact forms is so that we can use it as a learning lesson. One for the racer and two for the race directors to bring up past situations and educate the entire group to keep it from happening.
Y not start between t11 and 12? thiink SCCA did that once
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3 CMC Jason Love Conroe TX Chevy Camaro 1991 Love In It Racing
9 CMC2 Mitch Warren Granbury TX Pontiac Firebird 1996 Natwell Welding Supply\ Moonlight Printi
11 CMC2 Michael Mosty Richardson TX Ford Mustang Coupe 1989 Bell Racing
14 CMC2 Charles Penney Round Rock TX Ford Mustang 1990 Motion Dynamics
24 CMC2 Bryan Leinart Plano TX Chevrolet Camaro 2002 Texas Financial Resources
28 CMC2 James Proctor Paris TX Chevrolet Camaro - Z28 1993 Team Pro-Graphics
31 CMC2 Nicholas Valentin San Antonio TX Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1992 Witchdoctor Motorsports
32 CMC2 Gary Robertson Richmond TX Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1986 Witchdoctor Motorsports
34 CMC2 Wade Zimmer Bryan TX Ford Mustang 1986 TAMSCC
39 CMC2 David Francis Pearland TX Chevrolet Camaro 1994 Orange Is Fast!
48 CMC2 Steve Mulder spring branch TX Chevy Camaro 1995
54 CMC2 Sam Crumpacker College Station TX Ford Mustang Cobra 1994 none
55 CMC2 Team Jordan Georgetown TX Ford Mustang 2002
70 CMC2 Glenn Landrum Fort Worth TX Chevrolet Camaro 1995 Moonlite Printing & Graphics\ Pi-CoFab\ Natwel Weld Supply
77 CMC2 Randy English Spring TX Chevrolet Camaro 2000
79 CMC Nicholas Runyon Fort Worth TX Chevrolet Camaro 1984 Moonlite Printing and Graphics
85 CMC2 Wayne Stehle Houston TX Chevrolet Camaro 1998
132 American Iron Frank Robertson san antonio TX ford cobra 1996
404 American Iron Team BlueFire Racing McKinney TX Ford Mustang GT 2005 My Wife; DFWCharityRacing.com; 281Motorsports.com; MyPOV360.com
23 American Iron David Neary The Woodlands TX Ford Mustang Cobra 1994
67 American Iron Marshall Mosty Denton TX Ford Mustang 1989 Bell Racing\ John Mosty Company
J. Lo and Nick R back in CMC1?
TWS is a horsepower track, which I'm lacking. I don't have a problem running 2 at any other track but the straightaways at TWS are to long while 7 and 12 are almost flat out corners at the end of two good straights.
Jason/Nick
I have a dyno cert for CMC1 and not in the points chase.
If you don't get another CMC1 entrant, I'll insert the restrictor plate and run 1 to make enough for Toyo Bucks.
An all GM podium!
That's code for scared of the 24 if its running.Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
That would be awesome Mitch. It'll be nice having a couple cars to play with.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
(plus at least two more characters... what's with the 4 character minimum?)
I'll might run CMC1 too if y'all will allow it. I don't see why a 4th gen LT1 is allowed to swap between the two with a plate change but a 3rd gen with an LT1 can't.
This next statement is of course contingent on me passing comp school, but I'm only making 201hp/260tq, so if you guys need me in 1 on Sunday so you can get more contingency I can do whatever. Ill be starting at the back no matter so it really doesnt matter to me what class I'm "in".
And yes, the engine is one of the last thing I am getting around to fixing. My rich uncle Visa cant pay for all of this at once! :)
It'll REALLY suck if I beat you in CMC 1 trim, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanL
TWS isn't a HP track. (where are the emoticons?)
With that out of the way. I've run 1:58's at TWS in CMC trim. In fact, I've seen every CMC platform in the 1:59's. Most of the CMC2 cars are not below a 2:01. So is it the HP that is the problem, or is it the driver?
My bet is I don't run any faster than a 1:58 in CMC2 trim.
What are you guys gonna do next year when there is no CMC1?
That makes no sense. If it isn't about HP, we wouldn't have limits... right??Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
All things the same, a car given more HP "should" turn a faster lap time than the same platform with less, given there is no wheel spin (which shouldn't be an issue at this track).
I asked for a smiley didn't I?
My point was most of our guys leave time on the table that is not a result of lack of HP. Obviously my point was missed.
I could run CMC2 at 230 hp and likely finish very well. Those who are HP lacking would benefit from running at whatever they have and trying to out drive those who are at the 260 limit. Retreating to CMC is not the answer (my opinion only). Francis is a good example of doing well w/ what you have. He was making like 212 hp last year. Sure, its not a 30 hp deficit.
Its great to see folks max'ing the Toyo payout, but I think it is better to see everyone in CMC2. Car count is king!
I agree. "Run what you brung"
Go to ST4Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
Same number of cars will be on the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
By your logic (which is flawed by the way) we could ask the GTS/ST/GTA guys to run w/ us. It isn't contributing to class car count if we do it, same goes for splitting CMC into two classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
How is it flawed? Not aligned with Glenn-world?
Same number of cars
Same number of people
Same number of registration fees
Is there some slush fund you get a stipend from if the CMC2 car count breeches a certain number?
Why can't you let folks (me) go to the track and have fun the way they (I) want to have fun and not put this cloud of negativity over it like I'm doing something horribley wrong.
You and I go to the track for two seperate and completely opposite reasons. Deal with it.
Mitch is off his meds again.....
I generally agree that one class is better but I also see this as one of a limited number of opportunities for "pure" CMC1 cars to run together. 2012 is back to one class.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
I also agree there is a lot of time left on course... or in my case, running CCW... somewhere in the infield between NASCAR 1 and 2.
....
Its funny you call it "Retreating" when I haven't ever gone anywhere. Its hard to retreat when your the only one that hasn't gone anywhere in the first place.
If it doesn't apply to you, could you possibly assume I wasn't talking to you?
Maybe you can explain it to me because I really don't see what the big deal is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Ginsberg
The only plausible reason I can conjour is so that the more speedy drivers can claim they beat more cars.
BFD
If "retreating", as it was portrayed, to CMC 1 is a huge deal, then it should be in the rules that it's not allowed.
I was just trying to be a team player giving something for lowly CMC1 guys some reason to race.
One thing I forgot to ask of the CMC 1 guys running is if it OK for me to stay on 17" rubber.
Any of you CMC1 guys affected have an issue with that?
OK with me.
So is a restricted LT1 3rd gen... :)
My mistake. I thought you ran in CMC2 at Cresson. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonLiiR
Personally, I just want to race where the most cars are running. The more cars running in one class, the more likely there will be more people to play with in your lap time range. The lowly CMC1 guys are fast enough to run with quite a few of the CMC2 guys. The way I have fun is battling 3-4 cars for 12th or any place. I see jumping down to a class with a smaller field a way to better your odds at getting a better finish and some Toyo Bucks, which may be important to some people.
Also there's that whole thing of out of class racing. It's nice to just race and not try to calculate where you're going to let someone by while not losing too much contact with the guy you are chasing and yet not letting the guy who just passed you check out from the guy he's running from who you try to let by with the same 'level' as you did the first guy so not to screw his chances of catching the first guy while inherently giving up some time to the guy who is chasing you.
I'll run CMC1 if it looks like it will be a bigger class.