yeah, Matt. I still have a backup set saved for ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by AI#97
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yeah, Matt. I still have a backup set saved for ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by AI#97
I'll reserve the last set for Dan if they are still available...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dulaney
Richard P
Morgan has first right of refusal to them. He said he wants them, just need some money from him. I'll see how few I can order and maintain the same pricing.
The hubs off old cars are OEM not cheap off the shelf partsQuote:
Originally Posted by AllZWay
I might be onto something, need time to research and test this out unless someone here already figured it out.
The late C4 corvette guys figured out that our 4th gen fbody hubs bolt up to their spindles, and some of them have had extremely good fortune with the SKF 4th gen hubs (part # BR930186) compared to the other brands, including the Timkens some of us run and repeatedly warranty at Autozone :p; we're talking claims of entire seasons on big grippy tires and still no play in the hubs; these guys were having the same longevity issues we had with the other brands of hubs.
By chance I found a guy on ebay that had a few "new old stock" SKF hubs for fairly cheap, but I didn't get them with their original SKF boxes, and the hubs don't have SKF markings on them, just the markings of a Korean manufacturer called ILJIN. I've ordered other SKF parts (seals, pilot bearings, etc), that don't bear SKF marks so this doesn't bother me.
Things I have heard but need to research/verify:
1. SKF makes these particular hubs in Korea
2. Some research shows ILJIN of Korea ships a ton of crap to SKF USA
3. The "premium" line of NAPA hubs are in fact just SKF hubs
I intend on taking my hubs to the NAPA store to see if they match what I have right now; so far all known pictures of the SKF 4th gen hubs show them to be unique compared to the shape/color/design of all of the other 4th gen hub offerings, and importantly, match the two hubs I bought very closely.
From there I'm going to temporarily replace my Timkens with these hubs and see how long they last. If this experiment fails I'm out $110 and I'm back to warrantying out Timkens until I pony up the $$$ to get the nice setup; felt it was worth the gamble.
This is the thread about the BR901386 hubs that got my attention:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...-get-them.html
I recall this vaguely when I had both a C4 and 4th gen. However, given the C4 common issue w/ hubs perhaps this gives Jim another market to explore and reduce overall production costs. More buyers for those hub adapters with only minor adjustments being the mounting (bolt hole treads) of the adapter to the C4 spindle.
It may take a redesign to adapt the rear hubs w/ the drive flange.
edit: or maybe no changet at all for the fronts
c4 quoteQuote:
First off, contrary to popular belief there is absolutely zero drilling required to put the F-body bearings on the front. Somebody said it before (and was absolutely right) that all you had to do was put the bolts in from the back and thread them into the bearing flange just like you would put them on the F-body.
Went to my local NAPA store and compared their premium hubs to my hubs, and answered my few questions
1. SKF makes these particular hubs in Korea (The SKF box clearly said MADE IN KOREA)
2. Some research shows ILJIN of Korea ships a ton of crap to SKF USA (my ILJIN hubs are the same as the SKF Hubs down to the machine marks all over the body and the wheel studs)
3. The "premium" line of NAPA hubs are in fact just SKF hubs (I went to NAPA and asked to look at their premium $219/pop hub, they handed me an SKF box)
So that answers that, I have SKF hubs and you can get them at NAPA with a 3yr warranty for $219 each, or online for $160 each.
Only thing left to figure out is how long they'll last; the C4 guys were getting plenty of life with no reports (yet) of play so this is looking promising...
Napa warranty is only good ay store you purchased it and you must have receipt. Aint worth shit if you need one at track away from home. So buy a third as a spare....Quote:
Originally Posted by Pranav
ONE spare hub? Psshhh with these SKFs I'll have FOUR! Two Timkens and and the Two factory originals off my car. Anyone that has seen me unload the truck this year knows I bring enough spares for myself and 4 other cars. :(
I have a long list of repair or replace items for the car in my off season, but thanks to Jim, hubs are not on that list!!
Same here. In fact we are about to upgrade to 315's all around. They are going to be torture tested for sure!Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeP99Z
Just got confirmation from the machine shop on pricing. I'll have to order a minimum of 4 sets though. If I can get at least 2 guys to put 1/2 down, I'll go ahead and order. Pricing is as follows:
$1200 Full Kit with skf race hubs, $20 shipping
$565 Adapters and bolt kit, no hubs, $15 shipping
Texas residents must pay 8.25% tax. Texas guys should contact me though.
Small update...I have three sets of adapters on order, due in just after Cresson. Let me know if you want a set.
Three pairs of adapters in stock.
posted in wrong thread... nothing to see....move along.
How are these hubs (SKF's) holding up for you guys?
Solid....and on 315's and I love curbs.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
So on the above, my "SKF" Fbody hubs were not any better than the Timkens. One of them flung grease out the backside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pranav
Hoping to do the conversion this summer...
I wish SKF made engines and diffs, as my hubs are outlasting these. Seriously though, they're holding up perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
Not surprised Pranav had issues with the Fbody version, as they're no different than stock. The SKF vette 'race' hub has more/bigger balls.
Pfadt closed down, and I therefore lost my dealer discount on the hubs. I've found a relatively cheap place to get them, and Casey and Dan bought theirs there. I cut out all profit on Dan's set to keep the price about the same. I've got a few adapter sets left.
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dulaney
The only thing stopping me from jumping on your brackets is I have a self made set-up already. I have over $500 in it. I had to leave them on the shelf due to a track width change that made these illegal as I used 1LE rotors to make them. I will need to cut down a set of non-1LE disc's to fix that issue. So another $150 in machine work and I can run them. I need to check to see if the inside of the StopTech hat has more room for a larger diameter hub flange as I need more material to help stop the ARP's from cracking the hub when I press them in. I may just need to increase the hole size for the stud as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dulaney
I kept seeing Dan break rotors w/ his StopTech's. This also has me worried. That is an expense I can live w/out. Are Dan's failures a result of using OEM hubs?
I talked w/ Danny P at Carbotech today. He is still shocked I'm running the XP10's w/ this car. Not sure why as I don't feel like I'm giving up anything running them. He wants me to try the XP12's, but I don't want anymore initial bite and I don't want a pad that will eat rotors. I'm hoping the brake upgrade will just make the 10's work that much better for me.
Dan did not have time to install the new hubs before Hallett. His failures have all been factory style hubs
I'm prepping to order another run of adapters, as I've sold out. If you're interested, please contact me this week. The lead time should be about 4 weeks (machinist said 3, but he's always a couple days late).
The cost is $475 for the adapters, bolt kit, and shipping anywhere in the US. Only thing not included are the SKF hubs. I recommend buying those here for $350: http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...ategory_id=197
Please spread the word, as I'd like to pre-sell most of these adapters. contact me via email jim [at] design-base.net
So if anyone is looking for hub setup, I have them.
Presrichinc[at]hotmail.com
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That's my ride and they were installed Friday evening-100% bolt in without any issue. Noticeable difference of reducing or possibly eliminating pad knockback. Hard for me to say since I'm so used to tapping the brakes constantly around the track due to knockback. But I'm pretty certain there were times I never tapped them and didn't have any issues when coming to braking. That was never the case before. This car suffered less than the black car from knockback and I'm thinking it's the stoptechs.
And oh yeah-I picked up about a second per lap! Awesome piece of equipment Sean. I'm looking forward to more testing and checking and will update. Thanks!
Thanks Bryan :pQuote:
Originally Posted by BryanL