Class Spec discussion

Another point on expanding the series.....

Look at the way Jeremy and I are even involved (rough interpretation)

The only reason I am here is because of Marshall (blame is now placed :roll: )

Marshall started racing (background unknown)

Mike liked what he saw and decided to run CMC

Jeremy liked what HE saw and decided to run CMC (and possibly AI later)

I liked what I saw and (with a little help from Todd's Focus) I bought a car and am going to run CMC.

If we want to get more people into the series to support our cause then we will have to look at the nuts and bolts of this stuff and have a rule set that is simple (Adam,Mitch) and attractive to everyone. Young and old.

Really surprised no one has told me to SHUT UP yet. :wink:

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Originally Posted by Rsmith350

Really surprised no one has told me to SHUT UP yet. :wink:

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Be patient ... they will ...

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Originally Posted by Rsmith350

Really surprised no one has told me to SHUT UP yet. :wink:

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Don't make me lock this thread!!!!!

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got may dayum finger on the button now David.

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Originally Posted by michaelmosty

What would it take to get a 305 to 250 rwhp? Would that be possible as an alternative to switching to a 350?

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My original motor was a 305 that was producing 292hp/311tq to the rear wheels... It was NOT CMC legal... It had a balanced rotating assembly with @10:1 compression, custom ground Insky cam, roller rockers, CMC legal alum . intake and Holley 650... I have no idea what heads it had... Tranny is a Richmond 4 speed connected to a 411 geared Dana 44 diff

The motor lasted a full year of 15 sessions per weekend and was super strong up until the end... I ran a 2:01 in a DE session at 3,200 lbs just before it was blown-up, not a mechanical issue...

HOWEVER, I agree that the 3rd gen is tough to tweek but it is hard to bitch too much about the car when you look at the results Wirtz and Burch are getting from the same platform... Focus on CMC... Doubt you will see a third gen on the poduim in AI unless you are willing to spend BIG bucks...


I'm in the same boat and wishing I would have gone with a 4th gen or sn95...

I don't get it... the third gens are getting a bad rap here, but they are some of the fastest cars in CMC! What is the problem???

I did not read everything here, just skimmed thru it, so if I missed something let me know.

DD

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Originally Posted by GlennCMC70

got may dayum finger on the button now David.

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forum nazi

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Originally Posted by donovan

I don't get it... the third gens are getting a bad rap here, but they are some of the fastest cars in CMC! What is the problem???

I did not read everything here, just skimmed thru it, so if I missed something let me know.

DD

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And Faimonts aren't competitive ...

Someone needs to explain this to the Jeffs, Micheal and Rob ...

For me, if I had know about the CMC / CMC2 thing when starting my car build, I would not have moved forward with a 3rd gen. I've been having fun with the car, so no real regrets, but I have stopped the development I had planned on the car till I get a better feeling for where the rules is going. The discussions about 17x9.5 rims, brigger brakes, 350s / LT1 swaps, new trannys, new diffs.... yikes, no thanks. I know none of these are set in stone, but that is my point. All I know at this point is rule changes are coming.

My opinion continues to be the merging CMC and CMC2 seems like a bad idea. Older cars like mine will need to not only dump more money to bring performance up, but we likely end up with obsolete parts in the process we end up having to offload. And for the LSx cars, nothing seems lamer than a "race car" being handicapped to be slower than otherwise stock performance should allow.

I wish I had better answers instead of concerns....

Jeff

The only official discussions I heard with regards to the merger of the two classes is to bring the CMC2 cars down to CMC level... This was several months ago…

Now the CMC2 cars have 17" wheels and larger brakes... that is not a big deal either... You can run them on a FOX, I did it for 2 years, with stock fenders no mods back in 2004 and 2005 in American Iron, not sure about the third gens.

I'm just not buying into all this talk about the two classes being merged anytime soon... and until someone picks up a phone and get some facts I would not worry about it.

Why don't one of you guys with all the concerns about the two classes give Tony, Al or Todd a call and report back here what you talk about. It seems that by talking about it here and brainstorming on what we should or should not do is just scaring people and creating a possible false sense of concern.

DD :?