Wheels

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Originally Posted by Adam Ginsberg

Sorry Jeremy, but it's not the responsibility of the directors to find parts for competitors.

Several years ago, when I was looking to put a new set of rims on my car, I did a great deal of research, trying to find that "perfect rim" - strong, lightweight, correct dimensions (dia/width/offset/bolt pattern/etc), reasonable cost, readily available. IIRC, Lewis and I found the MB's at about the same time....but I didn't expect any of the other directors to find them for me/us.

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Adam, this isn't a shot at you, but I got $10 that says the current wheel "spec" that Mustangs can't easily get to was likely written into the rules at a point in time when Tony G owned an f-body. :roll:

Personally, if you are using a spacer whether bolted, welded or static, it's rotating mass added outside the brake rotor and should be considered part of the wheel assembly. I would rather allow that than have racers come up with potentially unsafe solutions to attempt to take "advantage" of this rule "spec". Personally, I think the wheel weight rule needs to be deleted. It's stupid to require mustangs to go buy $550 custom 3pc wheels when a readily available wheel from enkei is out there for $250...

You say looking for those advantages is fun, however, spending money in a budget series where you shouldn't have to is frustrating.

the reason the spacer deal aint cutting it is cause i'm not keeping a running list of who's wheels meet spec weight w/ or w/out a spacer. if a racer shows up w/ a non-legal wheel, make it legal. that means add material. spacers are for spacing wheels, not making weight. if you weld it, its then part of the wheel.

if you dont understand that, i cant help you.

Isn't there a rule about not allowing ballast rearward of the main hoop of the rollbar? So I don't think you could weld ballast onto the rear wheels :lol:

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Originally Posted by GlennCMC70

if you dont understand that, i cant help you.

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I don't believe this is the attitude that got the series to where it is now, I do however believe it is the attitude that has gotten elevator guys their reputation over the years...

Hate to say it directors, but I think it's your job to help us. We don't set the rules, the group of directors sit down and talk about what we submit. We have no where to voice our opinions but here and at the track. Part of your duties are to make decisions on how the rules read, how they will be inforced, and what changes need to be made, correct?

Also, if a wheel spacer is attached to a wheel, with whatever form it may be attached, it would be safer (if it could withstand the heat) than the spacer's not attached to the wheel. Right? JB weld may/may not be able to withstand the heat, but having a pressure fitting on top of a cold/hot weld would only double the protection right?

As far as me wanting you to drive my car Glenn?
No Thanks...........

Rookies :roll:

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Gunter

I think it's your job to help us.

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It's the director's job to make you THINK they are helping us, all the while raping the rule set to create turmoil and angst.

HTH ...

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Gunter

I don't believe this is the attitude that got the series to where it is now, I do however believe it is the attitude that has gotten elevator guys their reputation over the years...

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J, don't waste your time with Glenn, he's black or white kind of guy. Just keep running the snowflakes with the 255's. ;)

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Originally Posted by AI#97

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Gunter

I don't believe this is the attitude that got the series to where it is now, I do however believe it is the attitude that has gotten elevator guys their reputation over the years...

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J, don't waste your time with Glenn, he's black or white kind of guy. Just keep running the snowflakes with the 255's. ;)

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I will till I can afford a set of $2500.00 rims or a new platform...

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Originally Posted by AI#97

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Gunter

I don't believe this is the attitude that got the series to where it is now, I do however believe it is the attitude that has gotten elevator guys their reputation over the years...

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J, don't waste your time with Glenn, he's black or white kind of guy. Just keep running the snowflakes with the 255's. ;)

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untill its you who are responsible for the how the series is handled, you will never understand.

but hey, if your willing to police it and take the DQ if i catch it when you dont, have at it. my bet, thats not the case.

dont like my answer, call Tony G.

oh, and ballast is something that serves no other purpose than adding weight.
wheel spacers welded to wheels also change wheel offset.
no different than a cool suit cooler mounted in the rear of a car. yes it add's weight (no different than ballast) but thats not its purpose. its part of a driver comfort item, and therefore its not ballast.

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Originally Posted by Al Fernandez

That I know of there is one CMC2 spec 305 and another with a 350, both on the west coast. Early indications from the 350 arent good. The dyno pulls on the 305 show less horsepower than a cmc1 speck 305 so something is wrong in that motor. More testing needed, not enough volunteers to move this along at the rate we'd all like to see.

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My old 305 that was built to SCCA AS specs put out 292 hp and 311tq to the rear... I have offered to do ANY testing needed for the 3rd gen power plants... I have a completely stock 305 in an '85 sitting in my yard... I have a 350 4 bolt 250hp factory crate motor in my car now... I have a 305 short block out of a 85 blazer along with 3 sets of heads...

If a decision is made to to work on a carbed setup on a 3dr gen then give a set of specs from the directors and I will try it... I'm not in it for points or to go to nationals, I will run AIX with ANY motor just for testing...