What you can do with older CMC cars

Al,

What is THE NUMBER for next year and 2010? Here you just posted 260/310, on the CMC board Tony G. and you posted 260/300.
Both of your posts are quoted below for reference.

Thanks,
Chuck
CMC #14

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Originally Posted by Al Fernandez

We should chat up everyone being in the same trim next year at eagles canyon, but it should be 260/310 not 230/300. The 230/300 is not possible for Brian or anyone else that joins with a newer car. The 260/310 is going to happen. Might as well get it over with instead of deferring until the last possible minute.

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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: BIG CMC announcement.

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Fellow racers:
Our intention for the series is to merge CMC and CMC2 back into a single class beginning with the 2010 season. Beginning that season, power target for all cars will be 260hp and 300lbsft. A set of engine upgrade packages will be specified to bring the current CMC cars to the new power levels, while current CMC2 cars will simply restrict down. Currently specified CMC-2 wheels, tires and brakes will be used in the 2010 merged class, and certain allowances will be made to assist the older cars in fitting the bigger wheel/tire package. In addition to the director discussions taking place nationally now, volunteers are sought to assist in the research & development of new CMC upgrade packages. Contact one of the directors if you are interested.

Now before you go crazy with questions, this is just to let you know where we are headed.
We the directors feel that racing as one group is very important to the series and to bring it back to where it was a few years ago, and you all knew that was our intention from day one.
We will make sure that everthing is in place and I will have several updates on how we are going to do this.
Most is figured out, but not all of it quite yet.
Again I will update this subject quite often.
Thanks,
Your Directors,
Tony Guaglione
Todd Covini
Mike Plum
Nick Steel
Al Fernandez

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Originally Posted by jeffburch

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Originally Posted by Al Fernandez

MFW, you can compete against the rookie of the year, no for the rookie of the year. :lol: Montoya is not a rookie! hahaha

We should chat up everyone being in the same trim next year at eagles canyon, but it should be 260/310 not 230/300. The 230/300 is not possible for Brian or anyone else that joins with a newer car. The 260/310 is going to happen. Might as well get it over with instead of deferring until the last possible minute.

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How do I arrive at these numbers on a 5 liter Chevy?
Still waiting.
thx,
jb

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I was getting 292/311 with my old 305... nothing close to stock tho... my motor was built to run in American Sedan in the SCCA series... the only thing stock was the block...

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Originally Posted by David Love AI27

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Originally Posted by jeffburch

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Originally Posted by Al Fernandez

MFW, you can compete against the rookie of the year, no for the rookie of the year. :lol: Montoya is not a rookie! hahaha

We should chat up everyone being in the same trim next year at eagles canyon, but it should be 260/310 not 230/300. The 230/300 is not possible for Brian or anyone else that joins with a newer car. The 260/310 is going to happen. Might as well get it over with instead of deferring until the last possible minute.

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How do I arrive at these numbers on a 5 liter Chevy?
Still waiting.
thx,
jb

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I was getting 292/311 with my old 305... nothing close to stock tho... my motor was built to run in American Sedan in the SCCA series... the only thing stock was the block...

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ok guys.... Jeff very well knows that a 305 can make the number. his issue is w/ not knowing what parts he's going to be allowed to use to get there.

Well Glenn, that's not entirely true. As I've said many times those numbers cannot be made with TPI.
TPI will not make those hp numbers even with 350cu under it sucking.
Tq number will be too high as you try to get the hp up.
Soup (yogurt) sandwich.

If reality sounds negative so be it.

jb

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Originally Posted by jeffburch

Well Glenn, that's not entirely true. As I've said many times those numbers cannot be made with TPI.
TPI will not make those hp numbers even with 350cu under it sucking.
Tq number will be too high as you try to get the hp up.
Soup (yogurt) sandwich.

If reality sounds negative so be it.

jb

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given that ours is also TPI, that's concerning to me. :(

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Originally Posted by RagingAardvark

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Originally Posted by jeffburch

Well Glenn, that's not entirely true. As I've said many times those numbers cannot be made with TPI.
TPI will not make those hp numbers even with 350cu under it sucking.
Tq number will be too high as you try to get the hp up.
Soup (yogurt) sandwich.

If reality sounds negative so be it.

jb

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Just though that lookig to SCCA might be a good place to start.. Wirtz, got any input???

given that ours is also TPI, that's concerning to me. :(

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Just Curious...

Since it was brought up a few post back I'll ask my question just to make sure.

My intentions were to start competing in CMC next year. At this point, I am going to build the car for 2010 (AI lights). 2009 would basically be my "rookie" season. So if I were to build an '10 car and run CMC2 next season, would that exclude me from competing for CMC ROY in 2010??

Not to say that I may even have a chance of besting some of the other newcomers, but it would be fun to at least be in the mix, that is what it is all about.

you can only be a rookie once while racing in NASA. theres no ..... racing in CMC for 10 years then going AI and being a rookie. sorry.

I think it's best to remember that ROY includes a lot more than your final standings... Things like attitude and not pissing off the important folks of AI CMC TX... That pretty much takes me out of the running next year! :lol:

I just look forward to taking some green flags with these guys... I will continue to talk $#!T, that's just part of my personality... like MFW wanting a point by :P

Well, given each class is allowed to name a ROY, I would assume next year we'd have a CMC and a CMC2 ROY, so either way you'll be running for one Jeremiah. You can be sure Gunther wont be hard to beat :lol: :wink:

Chuck...yeah, 300, 310...it'll be somewhere around there. Hoping to see some more dyno info before we decide. My bet is 310.