Kevin, get on my schedule quick. looks like we have 2 CMC cars to build and a CMC-S car in the works. if you want that car fast(er), let me get ahold of it for a weekend.
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Kevin, get on my schedule quick. looks like we have 2 CMC cars to build and a CMC-S car in the works. if you want that car fast(er), let me get ahold of it for a weekend.
I would like to bring bitch down for October at the MSR-H race. When do you want it and when will the new rules be published?
By all means, get on Glenn's schedule.
He has 2 cars and 2 additional cages to install and a wiring job.
FWIW ... WMC is closed till November
The only reason I would buy your car is to buy it for $1000 till you are past your current domestic situation and then sell it back to you for $1001 ;) You need it to race next year!
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Originally Posted by AI#97
Where are D'a Rules? :?:
http://camaromustangchallenge.com/cm...pic.php?t=2023
This was released at the Championship races this past weekend.
The details are not in stone yet as we are working on a few adjustments,but what is in stone is there will be a new group/class within CMC for 2007.
The entire purpose is to give those pony cars that were previously not allowed into CMC a place to run that does not involve the level of cost and preparation/fabrication that AI does. We are in no way trying to encroach on AI and there is still a huge difference between the two.
Starting next year, we'll have a new group within CMC: CMC-S. We will maintain separate points for this new group, but it will run with the existing CMC group. There will be one rule book for CMC and CMC-S. All of the current rules will apply to the new CMC-S cars, with the following exceptions:
We're targetting a Hp/Tq baseline of 280/300 with weight of 3200lbs, with some wiggle room above that running added weight (similar to current). This provides a weight/power ratio exactly half way between current CMC and current AI. Exact weights for each of the platforms will be announced later, they might not all be the same, and might not be exactly 3200. At the end of the day though, CMC-S cars will have more power and better weight/power ratios than current CMC rules allow.
Allowed motors (and therefore cars): LS1, 05+ Mustang GT 3 valve 4.6, 03-04 Mach1 DOHC 4.6, 96-01 Cobra (no Cobra R) normally aspirated DOHC 4.6.
Maximum front rotor diameter of 13" (stock on Cobras, simple upgrade on F-cars), factory style dual piston calipers up to 44.5mm (this includes all current as well as 05+ 43mm for Fords), we will also allow the 40mm C5 calipers on CMC-S F-cars as an upgrade to keep up with the bench racers.
Choice of current 255/50R16 or 255/40R17. This 17" tire has the same section width, and same static loaded radius as our current tire
With this, the only cars of significant manufactured volumes not included are the 93-95 Cobras. These 93-95 Cobras, rated at 235-240Hp/285Tq, will be allowed in CMC as normal CMC cars. Folks running these motors will be allowed restrictors if necessary to get under 230. If nothing else this provides a legal alternative intake,cam,TB, etc. for 5.0 cars to make up some power. With this, every Camaro, Firebird, and Mustang has a place to run, and should proove to result in an increase of cars on the track. There are only a handful of models left out, and these were not made in big enough numbers to worry about: the Cobra Rs and the '97 35th Anniversary F-Bodies.
There are of course a lot of smaller details that need to be worked out, and we'll do our best to cover everything over the next few months. Given that there is a lot of "new" and in this world of amateur racing there hasnt been a lot of track testing, we expect to have to massage a few things here and there as we learn.
At this point there are bound to be a lot more questions than answers, but here are a few we've already come up with:
Are F-body SS and WS6 cars legal? - Sort of, by making them not be an SS. Simply remove/disable SS components (factory ram air hood and ram air compatible intake) then they're no longer an SS, and therefore legal.
I have a current 01 Mustang that I run in CMC with a restrictor to get down to 230hp, but I want to remove the restrictor and run CMC-S...can I? Yes, any of the existing allowed cars can choose to run CMC-S but there are no incremental modifications allowed for them to make up the power difference.
I just blew up my LT1. Can I install an LS1 in it and run CMC-S? - Yes, you can update older cars with newer motors: LS1 into an LT1, 4.6DOHC into a 4.6SOHC etc. Ford 4.6 3valve cannot be installed in anything other than an 05+, similar to how LT1s arent allowed in 3rd gens.
Are other LT-x and LS-x derivatives such as the LT-4, LS-6 etc allowed? NO
I found this trick XXXX part off an 06 Mustang. Can I run it in my CMC 95GT? No. 05+ Mustangs will be treated like 4th gen F-bodies with regards to update/backdate rules.
Since you're going to allow CMC-S F bodies to run Vette brakes, can I run those Vette calipers in my CMC 4th gen? Maybe. As we do every year, we'll be revisiting the CMC rulebook this fall and addressing concerns, clarifications, suggestions. We know a lot of 4th gen drivers have caliper spread issues, and we'll revisit that again.
Much more to come.
Shoot me or Al Fernandez emails for questions.
Thanks,
Tony Guaglione
Hey, Kevin, need a driver?
Kevin, take the CMC rules and only make changes to them w/ what Clifton posted.
i think it can run @ Houston as is and we could work on it some in the off season.
Bring it to Houston and Run AI!!! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
Glennnnn,
What do I need to do to put the C5 rotors and Brakes on the front of Bitchin' :?:
Call LG's, they make a bracket and its nice. dont let them talk you into thinking you need C5 calipers, you dont. they will work w/ them, but the brakets were designed to use the stock F-body stuff. just get the brackets. pick up a set of rotors from O'Rylies for a c5 and you will be good. FYI - you have to use 17" wheels w/ these and there are fitment issues w/ some wheels. i had the best luck w/ the '00-02 SS 10 spoke wheels and the ZR1 replicas from the '98-99 SS's.
if LG's will not get you set up, i know a couple other vendors for this.
call me if you have issues.