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and then there were four...
Or three, or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by donovan
Mitch, you are partially correct regarding the drag racing thing but there are a couple of groups for mustangs like SCMC and SVTOA that pack in 100 cars easy. I have instructed at both and honestly, the DE gang never wants to go to the expense of racing or turn their dailies into a race car.
PCA only has 1 or two events a year, BMWCCA had one a year and recently went to 2. Daron is correct about Apex and I forgot about them.
NASATX HPDE's could use some car counts but keep in mind that they are an avenue to "sign off" drivers for their comp licenses as a requirement.
Anyway, DL, find some nicorette man....you be tweakin' a little.
I quit smoking last Friday, ready to chew through this desk in front of me. I can sympathize...
MB/DL
29 days for me.
Physical withdrawls gone.
Mental ones subsiding slowly.
Now kinda like remembering lost love ones.
Less frequent with the passing of time.
A pack was 25c when I started LOL!
Prolly coulda bought an LS7 car with the money I blew on 'em.
jb
Mitch, your comments about drag racing were absolutely spot on ... a couple years ago .. but times are a changing - note Ford's 100% road course oriented marketing and racing focus these days - note a big increase in the number of 05 mustangs seen at DE events these days compared to the small number of earlier models we used to see - note the huge increase in DE events these days - note the huge increase in road courses recently ...
And I have to beg to differ with the notion that the DE's are not a big potential recruiting ground for future racers. So many of us came from there - JG, Glenn, Mitch, AG, myself and Mason ... Indeed, NASA's whole growth strategy is based on it! Just like drag racers who start out taking their daily driver to the track on Friday nights ... there are plenty that never do more than just that - never make the leap from street car to full on dedicated racing - but there are also plenty who do just that!
SVTOA and SCMC style "once a year" events tend to attract those who come out to play but once a year in their daily driver - but orgs like DriversEdge, PCA and BMWCCA are different - many of the folks who start with these orgs progress through the ranks, and eventually, many reach a point where just tooling around in their street cars doesn't cut it anymore ... so they look to racing to satisfy the need for speed. NASA, PCA, and BMWCCA have a path to accommodate this need ... DriversEdge does not (yet!).
I believe that NASA's challenge is to ensure that it has a way to get noticed by those advanced DE folks from other orgs who may be considering a place to go racing - we need them to look at us first before they end up at the SCCA or single make clubs - right now, I don't think that is necessarily the case? The TT positions NASA in an ideal position to provide a bridge between DE and full blown racing, and I think the best way for NASA to get the message out is to have material available at the tracks on permanent basis - flyers, posters on the notice boards, advertising billboards on the pitwall, etc.
This gets around any need to have "cooperation" between DE orgs and NASA, and hopefully, will prompt a few more folks to come talk to the drivers/instructors who have NASA stickers on their cars!
I have to agree with Todd on who pays for what - NASA TX already has brochures covering all racing classes, but unless there is already a national AI/CMC brochure available to us, if we want to do something over and above the generic NASA brochure to help attract more drivers to AI/CMC, then perhaps we should take care of that ourselves? I'm sure NASA TX won't mind helping distribute our flyers if we are doing the same for them?
I'd also like to see more done to try to promote ASC and AI/CMC in dirt track circles, but I don't have any contacts in that area to help directly.
Wow JB, I had no idea that you quit also. Guess that new tax hike has had some added benefit lol. Congrats bro! DL also? Wow, everyone bailing on old habits. Almost 24 years smoking for me, but I don't recall any $0.25/pack prices!
Day 4 here and nobody wants to talk to me at the office. Hope it gets better because this hasn't been any fun so far... :lol:
Mike, just keep thinking about the brats... it's all about the brats...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Bell
I DID post this ...
... and I stand by it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
VERY few DE participants move to wheel to wheel ...
Matt, I know Ford has a new marketing strategy. But you have to acknowledge that that general public would NEVER buy a new car and go racing in it.
Skip did!Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
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I think we are all hitting good points about what can be done but up till now, it's all just lip flapping and restless typing. What's amazing is that all of these are great ideas and have been put out in the open for atleast 2 years... Anyone seen a sign yet?
Daron, the national ad campaign in GRM for NASA shows their logo on the outside wall of some race track. Maybe there just isn't any trickle down of information about how to promote a region? Truthfully, if National wants more licensed racers, THEY can kick in some money too!
The funny thing is that NASA started Spec E30 BMW and if you go to an BMWCCA event, they know nothing about the fact they can race with NASA locally... and it would be one of the cheapest racing classes available!!!
I think I am done arguing about it or trying to think about what can be done. I am going to go worry about my own "circle of influence" and to hell with the rest.