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What Kool-aid are you drinkin'?! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Waco Racer
There you have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by donovan
jb
Hallett needs to get here fast so we can all hug it out. :lol:
David ... it gets old to you and me and others. But the folks asking the questions are new. They've never seen the questions or the answers.
Responding to questions with "it is what it is" and "you don't get it" is a cop out. If a leader is too lazy or unmotivated to mentor the new guys, THAT'S what drives them away, not mindless internet banter.
This is the internet, not real life.
Ross ... I think your motivation was to have a constructive discussion about rules, implementation and intent.
But what you are reading is every bit as important as the actual rule base.
I stand by my impression that at some point in time, the Mom & Pop mentality of running an organization has to evolve. and maybe this series is there.
As equating AI and CMC in any way is ludicrous. AI rules seem to mimic building a car from the ground up like every other organization out there.
CMC rules are based on building a car down from the street ... 180* out of phase from the rest of the organized racing world. If it's your only exposure, it seems normal.
That's an interesting way of looking at it Mitch. When you really think about AI, it's essentially a clean sheet of paper that starts with a tub, firewall and shocktowers and a few other minor max/min items...The rest is a "sky is the limit" thing which IS frustrating financially when you want to remain competitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
CMC on the other hand is just a natural progression of a track car to race car one part at a time like an old school hot rodder...
i dont really agree w/ that Matt. my "Street/Track" is not even close to CMC rules.
hell, i had problems keeping my car legal for ESP for many years.
to me CMC is showroom stock as you can get w/out being showroom stock.
I will say this Ross. If CMC and -2 are kept seperate, you'll have running mates for quite a while. Run that third gen long enough, and I'm sure you'll WANT to build another car. Building up a car is half the fun!
I was being OVERLY general...Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
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Originally Posted by donovan
Don’t go there Jeff, there is no reason to take my words out of context to try and stir this up any more than it is. Two pages back and its referring to the third gen in CMC, not CMC2, nice try!Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffburch
How convenient you left off the part where I ask you to let me know what I was missing!
Thanks for the great feedback and conversation!
The sad part is I had more respect for you than many others in the group, and here you are taking cheap shots. Very sorry to see that from you, I would have expected more from our National Champion. :(
Mitch, Ross and others, I agree with 90% of what is going on here, again…
I’m S o r r r y for trying to help get a better organized discussion started.
I know exactly what you are talking about, I’m tired of the “it is what it is” and the later from TG, I have heard it and seen it way to many times. Sometimes you can’t even talk to him without him just shutting you down before you finish your question.Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
Ross, no issues here, I was just trying to help the discussion move into a different direction… this is third time I have tried it with this group… and the third time I have gotten the exact same reaction. I get the impression that they would rather keep the discussion among a select group here and not try to invite someone in who might be able to explain to all of use what the future looks like from a director, or national director’s perspective. Either I’m a slow learner… or maybe I care too much about the series.Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
You are new around here and all the question are great, keep them coming. I certainly don’t want you to think you can’t ask questions… I encourage lots of questions and I always have. The difference is that when a simple discussion turns into what it has here I try to get key people involved… I would rather have seen some of the senior members of the CMC crew make an attempt to do that, but like I said they seem to like the internal struggles.
DD
That was EXACTLY my intention.Quote:
someone who might be able to explain to all of use what the future looks like
Thanks for that.Quote:
all the question are great, keep them coming. I certainly don’t want you to think you can’t ask questions… I encourage lots of questions and I always have.
Couldn't have said it better myself.Quote:
Ross ... I think your motivation was to have a constructive discussion about rules, implementation and intent.
But what you are reading is every bit as important as the actual rule base.
I stand by my impression that at some point in time, the Mom & Pop mentality of running an organization has to evolve. and maybe this series is there.
My intention was never to get ANYONE in the group fighting among themselves. I'm going to go work on my car now and try to get it finished.