What are we waiting for?`

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Originally Posted by GlennCMC70

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Originally Posted by Alien

I thought this was clarified in another thread. My understanding is that the 5.0L guys aren't getting ANY help hp wise (well nothing dramatic like headers or a cam) for the 2009 season for CMC-2. If the directors knew what would work to get up to 260hp, they wouldn't have pushed back the transfer date. If you go run in -2 next year, you WILL get pulled on even harder with the 4th gen guys (since we don't have any 4.6s) running 260hp.

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the CMC and CMC-2 merge has been nix'ed. for 2009 - nothing will change for CMC (hp/weight wise). my bet is most all folks will stay CMC for as long as they can. Jerry, i was down almost 15hp. that will change for 2009 for me.

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I guess since they are going to let CMC slowly die off they will never again look at trying to get the cars even. I (and other Fox drivers) assumed we were going to get some kind of help. I know I read where Tony said we (Fox drivers) were going to be very happy with the changes in the rules to help our car. That is what I've been waiting on. I guess I should have known it was a bunch of BS!


JJ.

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Originally Posted by Al Fernandez

Gary...not true.

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I think we're on the same page, I was just too lazy to retype it.

From the other thread I linked... :wink:

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Originally Posted by Alien

So you'll be running WAY down on power compared to a -2 car unless you are one of the test mules.

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Al, note the period before the 2009. learn to read.

for the Fox, i'm not entirely sure the weight will not drop to 3100. i know that is the case for CMC-2, not sure about CMC. so its not BS. at the time this was decided we didnt know the merg was gonna be stopped.

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Originally Posted by GlennCMC70

Al, note the period before the 2009. learn to read.

for the Fox, i'm not entirely sure the weight will not drop to 3100. i know that is the case for CMC-2, not sure about CMC. so its not BS. at the time this was decided we didnt know the merg was gonna be stopped.

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Thanks for the info Glen. I doubt I can get our Fox down to 3100 with my fat ass in it. I will say I have no idea what CMC17 weighs. Since we did not finish high enough to have to weigh after a race we only weighed when everyone did. Everytime we weighed the car was heaver than the time before even though I have been removing weight all year.

If we get to go down to 3100 I know that is going to scare the $hit out of all you GM guys! I'm sure that is all we needed to win every race.

JJ

Jerry, "IF" the fox goes down to 3100 you'll be at the minimum weight also. I'll touch base with you and we can fo over the car and get every little thing out of it to get her down to weight.
I thought I had mine super low and was still able to get out about 35 lbs. of extra shit last year.

I'm telling you guys that an extra 20HP only makes a difference on very long straights. And I can count the number of very long straights we run at on Bryan's hand with fingers left over.

I think Al was surprised he was unable to just "walk the field" when he pulled his restrictor at ECR. CONSERVATIVELY, he was 260/300 and mine is 247/302. No one saw me or him running away with anything this year, did you?

At this weight and at this level of grip, it's just not a significant enough change to make a difference in the big picture.

No need to panic and think major changes have to take place, regardless of the group you run with.