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10-12-2009, 01:31 PM
AI#97

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Originally Posted by David Love AI27

DAMNIT... could you just stop being Matt for just a second?!?! :roll:

Sorry David, I just wanted to point out that the "rules process" for CMC/2 is very complicated and very hard to do...however, it would be nice for someone to just make a decision and move forward. If it turns out to be wrong, fine. Change it later on and fix it. Just looking for direction from the directors that should be directing on direction. Constantly asking the masses for "what would you like" is like masterbating with sand paper while banging your head against the wall.

Mostly why I am so frustrated with the rules "process" at NASA. They have identified a problem, heard the complaints of "why this and that". So make a decision and move forward....quit worrying about the racers that are already here in the series and have committed to be here, bring more racers in by solving the problems you already know and understand.

Sorry....guess I am bleeding a little from the AI crap but some of that same rules stuff applies here too but somewhat more watered down.

eh, carry on.
10-12-2009, 01:40 PM
michaelmosty

Matt, the main downside is that if they make a decision quickly there is a greater chance it will need to be changed in the future. Then we have the same scenario we had this year with Toyo. Everyone will be furious in the future when the same rule is tweaked again.

I know we all want an answer immediately but that is simply not possible. After what I heard at Nationals it is very evident that this situation is very understood by the powers above and they are providing support to get the best resolution as quickly as possible.
10-12-2009, 01:43 PM
AI#97

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Originally Posted by michaelmosty

Matt, the main downside is that if they make a decision quickly there is a greater chance it will need to be changed in the future. Then we have the same scenario we had this year with Toyo. Everyone will be furious in the future when the same rule is tweaked again.

I know we all want an answer immediately but that is simply not possible. After what I heard at Nationals it is very evident that this situation is very understood by the powers above and they are providing support to get the best resolution as quickly as possible.

I know "knee jerks" are not good most of the time.....BUT, haven't they been discussing this for nearly 2 YEARS now? Foxes figured out e-cam and shorties in like 3 or 4 months, probably because there are TONs of mustangs in the series. How many 3rd gens are we talking about here that aren't already running the carb'd setup that makes the numbers? Are we trying to "please everyone AND Mitch" at the same time?! LOL!!! :wink: :lol:
10-12-2009, 01:52 PM
Wirtz

I like the way James put it; if the LT1 in a 3G is going to be an option, then get one with it and say so so folks can start working on making the change.

As it sits right now, my only option to move to CMC2 is to sit and wait...

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Originally Posted by GlennCMC70

...the LT1 in a 3rd gen may be best for Jeff Wirtz, or best for .... whoever, but its not for 99% of the others.

Shouldn't you be dragging Mitch into something? Not me...

1000% agree with the comments in that the LT1 / 3G combo should not be THE answer. There must be a good FI 305 based solution as well.
10-12-2009, 01:59 PM
David Love AI27

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Originally Posted by michaelmosty

Everyone will be furious in the future when the same rule is tweaked again.

Like "lets throw 50 lbs on the problem... that will fix it" :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
10-12-2009, 02:11 PM
AI#97

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Originally Posted by David Love AI27

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Originally Posted by michaelmosty

Everyone will be furious in the future when the same rule is tweaked again.

Like "lets throw 50 lbs on the problem... that will fix it" :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

This is meant as a serious post, but why can't we just say 260/310 is the line, do what you want to get there. Some will build monster motors, many will build "regular" motors. This let's the directors off the hook to figure it out, leaves it to the racers to figure out THEIR way to get there along their budget lines....THEN, use the current base weight table, AND reward weight to level the playing field.

For years, folks in CMC have made different power numbers, most not near the max, and we have seen some of the closest racing of any series. It has come down to car prep and driver talent to rise to the top of the box. The 50lb weight break for the fox's, IMHO, made a GREAT change to make the racing even closer. Why not work the other way to slow the guys who build the MONSTER's and have success. Eventually, by race weekend 3, the field should be level? Right? Isn't that how OTHER sanctioning bodies level the playing field with vastly different platforms int he series? Establish a smart base line, which I think we have our hands on, then balance as we go along. I'll even put Gunter in charge of providing elevator plate with holes already drilled for you guys! ;)

Just a suggestion as it's columbus day and I have nothing to do.
10-12-2009, 02:28 PM
David Love AI27

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Originally Posted by AI#97

it's columbus day and I have nothing to do.

here is an option: masterbating with sand paper while banging your head against the wall.

your words, not mine
10-12-2009, 02:37 PM
Hood

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Originally Posted by David Love AI27

Gary did you look up Rosehill performance? What about rebuild kits?

I talked to him on Friday. He has pretty reasonable prices. He also said that he can get the 5th gear we want from Astro Perf.
10-12-2009, 04:09 PM
Al Fernandez

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I talked to him on Friday. He has pretty reasonable prices. He also said that he can get the 5th gear we want from Astro Perf.

Dude, what are you talking about? :lol:

Matt, come on man, take it easy. Shooting from the hip might work very well for Hollywood movies, but it doesnt work so well in either real gunfights nor in rules decisions.
10-12-2009, 05:21 PM
Hood

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Originally Posted by Al Fernandez

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I talked to him on Friday. He has pretty reasonable prices. He also said that he can get the 5th gear we want from Astro Perf.

Dude, what are you talking about? :lol:

Sorry for buttin' in on the off topic discussion :lol:
I know, I know... Rookies...

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