Rear spring rates for Fox body

EV, get off your high horse...

You are a good driver, but your car was not developed fully. Get over it.

I use to have a lot of respect for you, but as of lately you are just nauseating.

It’s too bad you had too much pride to ask people for help or discuss your Mustangs inability to keep up.

The obvious answer is that you did not have the time, money, ambitions or ability to finish the job. I know it’s hard to admit with all the pride you have, but we all know it’s true.

It’s okay to admit it. It will only make you stronger and people will respect you more.

DD

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Originally Posted by marshall_mosty

I can't think of anything else on the car at this point unless you want to make the car super slippery with umpteen coats of Zaino... wait... that's Glenn's secret to sucess!!!

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He is the "king of bling". :D

in order to help each other out w/ set-up info, you guys have got to stop refering to springs by things like "H&R super race" and "sport" and start refering to the specific rates. just bumping up or down from say a 200lb rear to a 225 lb rear is a big move. but 25 lbs could be the difference between driving style. you gotta find what works for you and what works for you will change as your driving gets better. i've made more single changes to my car this year than any other single season.

Don't forget seat time! Glenn and Jeff have tons, Proctor has a lot in a different type of car, Todd has a lot, I have a lot, Verner had a lot, etc. Don't forget that racing IS indeed different than open tracking. I didn't believe that was true until I made the switch, but being really comfortable in the car, knowing its characteristics/limits/dimension and being in control at all times is the first step and also key to driving any setup. Todd's car is a good example of a car that requires attention to rear end control (his gastrointenstinal control is another issue altogether). He has adapted his driving style and can overcome that characteristic through lots of time in that car. Chris Lyons drove my car once and his response was that he didn't know how I could drive the POS. My point is seat time is invaluable. I can't imagine what it would be like to jump into the piranha pit tha tis Texas CMC as a pure rookie.

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Originally Posted by AllZWay

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Originally Posted by marshall_mosty

I can't think of anything else on the car at this point unless you want to make the car super slippery with umpteen coats of Zaino... wait... that's Glenn's secret to sucess!!!

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He is the "king of bling". :D

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that was before rehab, dont open old wounds please. :wink:

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Originally Posted by Rob Liebbe

Don't forget that racing IS indeed different than open tracking. I didn't believe that was true until I made the switch, but being really comfortable in the car, knowing its characteristics/limits/dimension and being in control at all times is the first step and also key to driving any setup.

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I'm beginning to think that folks like you and Adam attended HPDEs for a different reason than I did. The move to wheel to wheel was not that big of an issue for me.

I was all he time tweaking, messing, fiddling and searching trying to get another tenth. All of us weren't racing, but over dinner, there were some bragging rights being handed out.

Mitch is dead on.... Hell we were racing amongst ourselves and I think each of us were warned by Rick, NASA and the like that we needed to move to wheel to wheel or tone it down. :lol:

To me the jump from OT to w2w was really nothing at all..... it just allowed for more places to pass....which is one aspect I still have the most to learn and I keep getting my arse handed to me. :oops:

i had 5 years of seat time before i came to CMC. that was 3-4 weekends a year. i'm now doing 5-7 weekends a year for the last 2.5 years. that is alot of seat time. and it has made the biggest improvement in my driving in the last year or so.
so guys that are finishing mid pack and farther back, my guess is you didnt have alot of seat time before coming to CMC. thats fine, but that leaves a big disparity between ability that you guys will soon be closing the gap on. w/ our current crop of drivers, TX CMC will be just that - a piranha pit in the next year or two.
man, those poor new guys that are coming in soon. wow. :shock:

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Originally Posted by mitchntx

I'm beginning to think that folks like you and Adam attended HPDEs for a different reason than I did. The move to wheel to wheel was not that big of an issue for me.

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HPDE... what's that. I started in Racecraft! 8)

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Originally Posted by mitchntx

I'm beginning to think that folks like you and Adam attended HPDEs for a different reason than I did. The move to wheel to wheel was not that big of an issue for me.

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HPDE... what's that. I started in Racecraft! 8)

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< in my best redneck voice > well dare's yur problum!
sorry Marshall. :P