MW,
I'm (we're) good.
Hehe, I was hoping they were a better tire.
Oh, well, I do think they will wear better, but their price prolly negates that.
jb
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MW,
I'm (we're) good.
Hehe, I was hoping they were a better tire.
Oh, well, I do think they will wear better, but their price prolly negates that.
jb
Not sure if these questions have been answered.
1. Will be allowed to run RA-1's and still be able to obtain class points and Toyo bucks after this past weekend?
2. Will there be a stipulation enforced that we cannot purchase new RA-1's and run those (Toyo still makes 'em!!)
3. Will lap records count if it's not done on Triple 8's?
4. Will a racer be qualified for the national event even though they didn't complete 5 races on Triple 8's?
This needs to be posted in the forum and not have to call a hot-line. That leaves way too much to the imagination of what goes on. IMHO of course. Again, these were questions brought up while standing around having a good time BS'ing with the guys. No drama, just some questions regarding regional/national stuff.
IMHO (2nd) - when a new tire is introduced, it should be at least as good as the one being retired. A racer shouldn't have to spend more money buying new parts (softer setup) in order to compete on a tire that should have been tested in each region for all classes prior to acceptance.
Spec Miata - SCCA winning teams go through 2 sets of 888's in a weekend to have a chance of a podium finish. This is double or triple from the RA-1's.
Listen - not wanting to stir the pot, but having run on the 8's for two weekends (tried different pressures) and seeing how they drop off after a few laps compared to the 1's, if there's a chance to run the 1's, I'm all for running them instead of the 8's for sure.
Not pointing fingers or blaming anyone. These issues need to be brought up and I'm sure our wonderful and talented directors will have it all under control in short order.
Eric, the rule as published by NASA is and has been since some time last year: no RA1s past the 2nd event unless you are fun running. As mentioned, I have asked for an extension due to our rain, and we'll see where that goes.
The NASA Championship participation requirements stipulate a driver must earn points in five official races in order to be elligible. Fun runners dont earn points, nor do they set lap records.
As a protest, I am peeling off my current Toyo tire stickers and replacing them upside down.
And as I stated before, I'm just not funded to buy a set of R888s at this point in time. When the rule said all of 09 as a transition year, I spent my tire budget on scuffed RA1s hoping to gather Toyo buck crumbs to fund a set of tires by year's end.
I am NOT and CANNOT go into debt to go racing. That is just stoopid in today's economy.
your 5 races do not have to all be in CMC though. you could run PT, AIX or STU, or whatever.
Maybe they should say "Noyo Tires".Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
Is anyone talking to Toyo? Coming from the tire industry, and spending a LOT of time driving and evaluating tires, there can be changes made (some simple, some difficult) to a tire to alter its performance. I would love to hear what Toyo is saying about this. Anybody got a good contact number at Toyo?
One thing I think many have glossed over is the differnt characteristics the R888 has when compared to the RA1s.
Yes ... if you just do a tire swap, using RA1 tried and true suspension setup, you will be a second slower.
That does not mean that the 888 is an inferior tire. It means that you will have to adjust your suspension and maybe your driving style to achieve RA1-like results.
Go back and read Darron's post carefully. There is good, insightful information in that post.
I appreciate all the thoughts, guidance and insights in this thread.
Series Directors here (and other series) are aware in this region (and other regions) and I'm sure there are discussions between Toyo & the national office.
The Toyo tire issue is on my list of things to discuss with Jerry K. and John L. this week.