I'd vote for 20 4 minute races... :shock:
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I'd vote for 20 4 minute races... :shock:
Funny, I don't remember groupings being up for vote. There are many things in the works for next year, try to think outside of Group 5. These things will reveal themselves in due time.
Well, how about those that attended nationals pick one of the tracks that most resembles Mid Ohio here in this region and for that ONE event prior to september, we have a 40 minute race, say Sunday morning in stead of a 30...but still have the afternoon 30 minute race too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Bell
Pretty simple and only costs another 10 minutes....if we start eliminating run groups which are on track for 80 minutes per day....this becomes easy and we can actually have down time between races and time for track recoveries....call it a bank of time so we don't end up running in the dark again....however, I am keeping ONE headlight working for now! :wink:
Clifton, I might suggest putting the preliminary plan out on the table now. Better to slowly digest it than have it dumped on us while we spin our wheels....in other words, give us something REAL to argue about!!!! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Waco Racer
<flag carrier for da South present and account for>Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffburch
For me personally, there were huge issues with some of the group 8 cars. There were times that punting them seemed like the best option, but of course those thoughts were held between the ears and the flying finger <below the window seal>.
We are digging in and keep the #@$@ hill!
Mid Ohio and TWS are similar. just off by .5 miles. only thing missing is the MAJOR elevation change's.
as we are sitting here coming up w/ demands we want from NASA (more track time) we have to be willing to give up something for that "more track time". the combining of groups is something none of us wants but we (some) are willing to take that in trade.
durring my last event, i needed to make up 16 points on Jeff for the Championship. i had to have a really big weekend to pull it off. 2 of the races (sat) had me fighting w/ a GPC Porsche that was already a lap down. he wanted to race me and Jeff both times. do i think it affected the outcome of the Championship? no. in other races i was caught and passed by Mixon and Jay. no big deal. did i affect their race? sure, but i think mine and Jeff's battle was more important. i drove my race and delt w/ what i was given.
point is, everyone on track is having to deal w/ out of class cars in the same ways. just like a ref on the football field, he's just part of the turf, deal w/ it. i think we should be willing to take on more class's in our run group and get 4 30 minute races for @ least the first event just to see how it goes. and for the GPC cars, stop letting them get a split start and that will help w/ them not lapping us. all that does is give them a big head start.
as for how the groups are combined, did i see where the SRT cars (neons right) are not grouped w/ Spec Neon??? why?
Soooo Eric,Quote:
Originally Posted by CMC17
Since you have an issue with Group 8, please let me know how I can improve our group. I think I have earned the right as "King" of group 8. :wink:
For me personally, I don't like to race without group 5. I find myself do hot laps. It is rare that we have enough cars entered in group 8 to even justify having a run group at all.
While were are talking here, I don't like split starts. What is the point. For me all that happens is I catch up to yous guys faster. I would like to grid where we qualify.
I would like to know for the record if group 5 will have our own run group next year.
I personally feel we have grown and done everything we can to deserve our own run group.
What is the plan?
here is a quicky re-org of the run groups. not sure of the total car counts for these groups and that could be the cause for it to not work. feel free to abuse me on this, as long as you offer your suggestions. my changes are underlined.
Group 1 HPDE 1&2
Group 2 HPDE 3&4, Comp students are in this group
Group 5 AI, AIX, AIV,CMC, GPC 1-2 & X; GTS 1-5 and U
Group 6 Spec Miata Challenge, SRX7
Group 7 , BG, PerformanceTouring E-H, , Legends (LP,LM,LS), Allison Legacy (AL), Se7ens 1-5, Spec SRT, Spec Neon, SE-R Cup, Formula Vee
Group 8 ; ASC; PerformanceTouring A-D, R and U; Panoz; HC1-3 & U, Honda Challenge 4-5, , 944 Spec, 944 Cup, Factory Five Racing Challenge (FFR)
Group 9 Time Trial only Session (run this @ lunch - its a 10 minute session)
Group 3 <blank>
Group 4 <blank>
Group 10 <blank>
Glenn,
Actually you have never effected the out come for me and Jaybird. He is actually one class lower than me and he can't beat me anyway. :wink: 8)
That GPC Porsche, he and I had a long talk about his driving. If he returns he'll be in a better state of mind.
I prefere to have traffic to negotiate, makes me better driver.
A well prepared SRT Neon and well driven, would regretably kick your Arse, although it would probalby break down. :lol: