If anyone wants to drive COTA, www.edgeaddicts.com is having an open track event all weekend. 5 sessions per day plus tours of the track. Price is a little steep but you get what you pay for. I'll be there coaching if anyone has questions.
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If anyone wants to drive COTA, www.edgeaddicts.com is having an open track event all weekend. 5 sessions per day plus tours of the track. Price is a little steep but you get what you pay for. I'll be there coaching if anyone has questions.
I have no idea how someone justifies a grand for a weekend entry fee, even at a track like this.
I whine and complain when my all-up expenses for the weekend total a grand. Maybe I'm too cheap.
Yah it's pretty steep. You guys should get in with one of the driving organizations and coach. Then it's free! And you get to drive cars you usually only see on TV.
Yeah I won't complain anymore about the $6XX I paid to race there last year now... yikes.
It's a freakin' sweet track, fun layout nice place and such... but $1k screw that.
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I'll be looking for the next CPI to exclude Track Weekend fees along with anything else that shows there is inflation.
If NASA ran here I would think the entry fee would be in the $600 range due to the higher number of participants which is more reasonable considering the track rental cost. These open track days don't have as many people which is why it's so expensive.
If you do the simple math...
4 run groups of 35 cars = 140 cars
$970 per car * 140 cars = $135,800
If NASA brought 400 cars (which would be easy to do with the appeal of COTA)
$135,800/400 = $339 per entrant
This is assuming the NASA rental would utilize all the same type of infrastructure as this event and that the operating margins of both groups are the same... Seems to be quasi-feasible...
it's always more than simple math tho :-/
That's what the assumptions were for. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kbrewmr2
IN, where do I pay? Take my money already!!Quote:
Originally Posted by marshall_mosty
Always more than simple math, and I will continue to argue that a purpose built F1 track on the current F1 schedule will have more allure and value than any other track in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by kbrewmr2
Ken and I have discussed online why COTA is so arrogant and expensive. He argues that there are plenty of other tracks with F1 history, that there are plenty of other tracks that are at the COTA level of condition and facilities.
My position still stands: purpose built and on the current schedule
Just curious, is the track that good or is the F1 connection really why you want to drive it?
The track and facilities are just that good and like no other here in Texas or within a thousand miles.
How far is Barber? I have never been there but I was told it is the nicest in the US. I also heard they get less than half what COTA gets. For me I say screw-them (COTA). Not that is makes a difference but the grass roots supported them and once they got open they don't need us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suck fumes
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One of our customers brought his Indy car that was driven by Michael Andretti in 1986. It's like a time capsul. Attachment 1456
Beautiful weather too! The track is really grippy now that the pavement is good and broken in with all the rubber on it.
Barber's track itself is a little boring to me. Total package I'd rank it behind VIR
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Originally Posted by Suck fumes
Very cool!!!
Barber is beautiful... Don't go off tho... they charge a resodding feeQuote:
Originally Posted by ShadowBolt
I wish people would stop spreading this misinformation. Original track management would, yeah. They also didn't work there anymore past around year 2 of the place being open.... they're LONG GONE now.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Love AI27
Current management is actually fairly reasonable. They're a bit high on their armco replacement rates, but aren't going out there and measuring your 4-off marks and billing for that stuff anymore. Plus some of the common run-off areas are now paved anyway.
COTA measures the distance of your Armco damage haha
Barber you pay by the section - most cars take out two or three rows and then multiply by how many sections you slide down and dent.