You guys should've all seen it in an email from NASA Tx:
Jan. 31 - Feb. 1 MSRH
Mar. 14-15 MSRC
Apr. 18-19 TWS CCW w/ 8 hour Enduro
Jun. 13-14 Hallett
Aug. 1-2 TWS CW
Oct. 3-4 Eagles Canyon
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You guys should've all seen it in an email from NASA Tx:
Jan. 31 - Feb. 1 MSRH
Mar. 14-15 MSRC
Apr. 18-19 TWS CCW w/ 8 hour Enduro
Jun. 13-14 Hallett
Aug. 1-2 TWS CW
Oct. 3-4 Eagles Canyon
I really hate that Aug. date at TWS.... I sure wished they would move that date each year.
The rest I like...and glad to see Hallett on the list again.
Todd, Rob...... you ready for another flogging? :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Fernandez
i've already started the email traffic on defending the Team Moonwell E1 2008 Championship! :D
January????????????
WTF?
Someone asleep at the planning again. :roll:
jb
more that NASA has always had the first weekend of Feb, and i guess that counts as the first weekend. i was kinda shocked too. bad enough our off season is shorter than the gap between some of our races (almost).Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffburch
Granted, it cuts the "off season" down, but you can't argue that the spring weather in TX turns to summer weather pretty damn fast - having a few races early on in the season isn't such a bad thing.
But then....most of my racing this year has been in CA. ;)
You weren't there, so you really don't know. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Adam Ginsberg
For those of us that require dynos, it screws us into having to dyno again when the weather warms up. Some of us make gobs more HP when it's cold.... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffburch
i have a hard time believing that.
its caled a weather station. if your dyno shop doesnt have one, dont use them. if its not helping, stop using them. i have never seen "gobs" more power made in the cool weather on a dyno. the correction factor corrects to a standard weather condition - temp, humidity, even barometer if i recall correctly. that should null out any gains seen in HP due to weather conditions.
also, you could dyno the day after this next race and be legal for 2009.
Actually, MSRH has a big customer (Pro) that usually rents their track for 10 days in January. This customer decided that next year they wanted the days that included our typical weekend. So it was either schedule on top of SCCA or 2 weeks before the March event. SorryQuote:
Originally Posted by jeffburch
another reason why we should just find another track to deal w/. if wehad a particulare weekend, we should keep it. if they gave it way out from under our feet, piss on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waco Racer
plus, i've always wondered why our seasons didnt go from Sept to June.
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Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
Sounds like fun. I'll be MUCH better prepared this time if it. Or maybe you need another co-driver.
shoot. you think my team was stacked last year. wait till you see the list for 2009.
How about running TWS in it's 1.8 or 1.9 configuration instead of MSR-H?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waco Racer
Every one like TWS. It's a great location, an easy drive for most and they serve a mean charizo ...
I love MSR-H. The management sucks major ASS, but I would hate to see the track off the schedule.
It feels like the traditional track for starting the year. :)
Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelmosty
Of course it's in my backyard.
Weather stations on dynos, any dyno, do not account for the timing that gets pulled or added due to intake air temp. Sure it can compensate for humidity and air temp outside essentially getting to a Density altitude, but the parameters in the vehicle computer to pull timing or even a different a/f ratio cannot be taken into account by the air station.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
on a cold day, say 35 degrees that is dry, this motor has made as much as 341rwhp. On a hot day of say 105 with 90% humidity, it has made as little as 307hp...same tune. Hence why I have summer and winter tunes for my car with changes in base timing and a/f...as well as adjustments to the fuel octane/mix. It's difficult to manage 400lb weight swings when you can only have 150lbs of ballast. I realize that is just a fact of racing AI since we can go into the computers and change LOTs of stuff.
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plus, i've always wondered why our seasons didnt go from Sept to June.[/quote]
DING DING DING. We have a winner. Why don't we have a shcedule like this?
JJ
I like the track too....but the management sucks so bad, I would like to see them suffer. :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelmosty
Don't dare scratch anything around there....they way over value it. :evil:
See, you just answered your own question; don't leave a credit card at registration.Quote:
Originally Posted by AllZWay
Maybe cuz every other car club in Texas also does this? Not sure, just guessing....Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowBolt
I love the fine print!! It is really close to me also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fbody383
TWS Enduro?
Is there a regular race weekend plus the enduro?
I have never made this event. Any help would be great. I might need to plan for the enduro if I need to run it.
the enduro is part of a the NASA weekend, but is not a required AI/CMC points race. no AI/CMC points are awarded for it.
So, I'm just figuring out that Hallett is on the Rocky Mountain region schedule as the Texas Colorado Showdown.
So I guess the whole bunch is coming and not just AI/CMC.
Am I the last one to get this?
jb
Is the NasaTX website back up with registration and info?Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffburch
I talked with Cody Powell for a long while last week and he said Dave put Hallett on the RM schedule instead of a PPIR event.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffburch
He said the 944 guys are grumbling, but is convinced that once they attend, they'll love it, just like he did.
Probably not the last one ... just consider it an inverted start.
Need to plan party.
Loud live Rock band.
Many kegs.
Oh, and barbecue.
Maybe use some of our money.
jb
Thanks Glen. I am glad to hear it. The car is getting sorted out, but I don't know that it will be up for an enduro yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennCMC70
I agree. They provided a great feed last year. We should reciprocate.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffburch
Jeff/Mitch.... noted.
We need to kick their ass on the track and in the BBQ pit, all in fun of course. FMRQuote:
Originally Posted by mitchntx
Hmmmm, I'm suggesting one of the kegs be bud light. After I refine the bud light into a 5 gallon bucket Mosty will think its Keystone :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffburch
That's just nasty
Keystone... Always Smooth
Right Mosty??
Organic Whole Milk has more kick than keystone.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremiahkellam
You know it, no bitter beer face! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremiahkellam
Lets talk number of races and drops. The schedule for '09 is essentially the same as 08 events wise. In 08 we ran 21 races: the first three events (MSR-H, MSR-C, and TWS) had three races (two 20s and one 40) and the last three events had four races. Drops were 20% (rounded down to 4).
Lets have some opinions: do we prefer the same for '09, would we prefer four 20s at all events (24 races, we could round drops up to 5), etc.
Since I will be doing only 2 events this year...4 races per weekend would be nice. To be honest, the 40 minute races tend to get a little boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Fernandez
20's that end up being 12's are too short.
I like longer races.
Maybe four 30's :)
jb
Team Jordan votes for four race weekends. I do agree that 12 minute races are BS. If we had 20 minute races (time starting at the drop of the green flag) that would be the $hitz!Quote:
Originally Posted by AI#97
JJ