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    New Ford Diesel Sept 28 in Dallas

    Ford to roll out diesel truck in 2007
    Heavy-duty vehicle to be equipped with a larger engine than current V8 that will run on low-sulfur fuel.
    August 22 2006: 7:14 AM EDT


    DETROIT (Reuters) -- Ford Motor Co., which is facing mounting pressure to reduce its reliance on gas-guzzling trucks, on Tuesday said it would begin selling a new diesel version of its Super Duty pickup in early 2007.

    The launch of the heavy-duty diesel-powered pickup comes at a crucial time for Ford, which has had to slash truck production this year after sales slowed faster than expected in the face of higher U.S. interest rates and gas prices.


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    Ford (Charts) said it would unveil the 2008 model of its F-Series Super Duty pickup aimed at commercial truck buyers on Sept. 28 at an event in Dallas.

    The new Ford Super Duty pickup joins a growing list of upcoming U.S. diesel-powered trucks and sport utility vehicles intended to provide more power and improved economy to win over buyers concerned about high fuel prices.

    Ford said the new 6.4-liter diesel engine in the 2008 Super Duty would be larger than the 6.0-liter V8 in the current model and would become first diesel engine in the U.S. market to feature a high-precision fuel injection system.

    That system, combined with new low-sulfur fuel, will make the engine run more quietly and reduce emissions to the level of a gasoline engine, Ford said.

    Ford dominates the lucrative U.S. pickup market, with the F-series alone accounting for 30 percent of its annual sales.

    But last week Ford said it would cut fourth-quarter production to its lowest level in 25 years in order to accelerate a turnaround plan that has not yielded results fast enough amid falling sales.

    Ford said the production cuts were necessary because high gasoline prices have cut into demand for pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles.

    By contrast, sales of diesel-powered trucks remain a small but still growing part of the U.S. market, with annual sales up about 25 percent since 2001.

    Almost three-quarters of all Ford Super Duty truck buyers already opt for a diesel engine, Ford said.

    The growth in the U.S. market for diesel engines has been boosted in part by upcoming U.S. government regulations that will require ultralow-sulfur fuel to be widely available from October.

    Ford said it would provide more details on the pricing of the 2008 Super Duty closer to the introduction of the new vehicles early next year
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    FORD SUCKS!





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    :shock:
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    News Flash....ford screws up again by rushing a new motor to production before final testing.....recalls 700,000 trucks and files bankruptcy.... :roll:


    "precision fuel system"...? WTF is that?! Common Rail Diesels with direct injection don't get much more precise.

    they would have been better off swallowing their pride and using the 6.7L Cummins that is coming out in the new dodges.

    also, look for power outputs to be about what they are running now....the new emissions standards and crappy fuels are going to "detune" the motors.....however, I am sure the aftermarket will fix that quickly!


    ford isn't quite in as much financial trouble as Chevy but they just can't seem to make a good decision.....

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    Give me a break!

    Matt, Ford owns Cummins, every wonder why the Cummins goes to Dodge with the diesel that is rated a distant 3rd behind the Duramax?

    Lets see, power that is the same? How about 650 lb.ft. torque with the 6.4L, 24,500 pound towing capacity while using low sulfur fuel and meeting 08 emissions. Hmmm where is Dodge? 18,000 if you get the manual trans?
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    Just a follow up for you Matt. While you say Ford can't make a good decision, remember that since 2001, Ford has sold over 1.3 million diesel Super Duty trucks, that's more than Chevy and Dodge COMBINED :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirwin
    Give me a break!

    Ford owns Cummins

    Uhhhh, no....they might own some shares of Cummins. Like 20%, maybe.

    Ford also has stakes in Volvo, Aston Martin, Land Rover....

    Navastar makes great motors, but Ford just does a shitty job of implimenting them.

    Twin turbos on a diesel sounds neat though.

    GM has a stake in Isuzu's Truck division. Hence the Duramax. Although, the Duramax has just as many problems as the 6.0L Powerstroke.

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    Dave, I realize you are a ford dealer but ask ANY hotshot hauler what they would buy and it's a dodge. There are MANY dodges pulling 30-40k pound trailers for 250k miles with nothing more than a clutch and turbo change when they go out. GVW ratings are total horseshit...ask the guys over at TDR for some REAL world trailer weights and you will shit yourself with what these guys are towing with a stock 1 ton dodge. Got to a modified one and :shock:

    big deal on the 650 ft/lbs from a 6.4L V8.....the 5.9 I-6 puts out 610 and pull a hole in a Ford's ass any day of the week. It takes Twins to get that power? Why?

    I have a good friend who is a diesel tech at a ford house and the general complaint INTERNALLY at ford is that "we have a good engine, but ford f'd up the engine controls and electronics..."

    fords do have bigger interiors and sell a shit load more trucks than dodge but that by NO means makes the motor any more reliable. Given I can buy the same Dodge for $10k less than a "comparable" ford and you have my decision easy!!!!

    Brooks is right, ford only owns a small stake in Cummins....ask a cummins employee and they will tell you they are proud that it is ONLY a SMALL stake! :wink:

    this is just all fun banter of course! :lol: I just wish Dodge had a V8 RWD 2 door I could campaign in AI!!! :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by AI#97
    Dave, I realize you are a ford dealer but ask ANY hotshot hauler what they would buy and it's a dodge.**
    **Not including the hotshot haulers that had the choice and still bought something else.
    What was your takeaway?

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    F Dodge, they are all POS. I wouldn't care if it was 1/2 the price of the others.

    Just my .02. YMMV
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