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    WTB: 302 with 5 speed

    Hey guys. I sold my VVC/GPC Vette to run with you maniacs in AI!! I have a 94 GT as a starting point, but someone forgot to leave the motor and trans in it. I am looking for a 302 and 5 speed. I am open to suggestions. I plan on running a carb setup for simplisity. I am also looking for MM suspension components.

    Thanks guys.....hopefully I'll be ready by Feb.

    Rayman (formerly #89 blue Corvette)
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    Rayman,
    I don't know where you live, but dfwstangs.net is a great place to start trying to find the major components.

    Otherwise, find a junkyard and see if you can pull the entire powertrain from a wrecked car to start with. Since you're going AI, you can sell the heads, intake, manifolds for a little money to recoup what you have in the long block and tranny.

    Also, corner-carvers.com helped a bunch with technical debugging as well as the "higher end" suspension components.

    Contact j3ffbrooks on this board for suspension pieces. He is parting out his #101 Mustang and still has some of the MM rear suspension left, I think.

    I don't have much, if any, to offer to sell, but with everyone's knowledge here, you can have anything built mucho pronto.

    See you in Feb!
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshall_mosty
    Since you're going AI, you can sell the heads, intake, manifolds for a little money to recoup what you have in the long block and tranny.
    ...and sell them to the CMC guys!!!

    If you're going AI, I'd go with a crate motor. Drop it in and go.
    Welcome aboard, Rayman!!!

    -=- Todd

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    If your in the D/FW area, contact
    Richard Painter @ 817.545.0799
    He'll find you something at reasonable prices I guarantee!
    His brother David is a transmission/rearend connection.
    He's in Burleson,Tx at 817.447.1900

    Mention my name for the brother-in-law special treatment.

    jb

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    Thanks guys. I found a local guy with a 87 gt with a motor out of an explorer in it. He already converted it to a carb set up. I can buy the entire car for $800. How does that sound?

    WHat is the lightest you guys have seen a SN95 run? I want to aim for the light/low power side of the equation.
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    Rayman,

    My old SN95 AI car was 2990lbs without the driver. Good luck making a used 302 last in AI, the rpm's killed my stock shortblock. Look forward to seeing you out there with us!

    Regards,
    Mike Bell

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    Quote Originally Posted by ledfoot2
    I found a local guy with a 87 gt with a motor out of an explorer in it.

    WHat is the lightest you guys have seen a SN95 run?

    Not light enough for an explorer motor to make the numbers.

    If the motor is from an earlier V8 explorer, it could be made to be CMC legal pretty easily. If it's from a later explorer, the heads aren't legal for CMC and aren't enough for AI...

    Realistically, if you are looking for deals like this to put a car together (which I think is a good plan), you might want to examine CMC a little closer. AI is not a budget class.

    For an AI motor, there was one for sale here: http://www.aicmctexas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=683
    I don't know if it's still available.


    Richard P.

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    Thanks Richard. I know the motor won't be enough in it's current form, just a starting place. If my math is right a 2700lb car cannot have more than 284rwhp. That is what I am aiming for. I want to have the fastest car per dollar in the AI class. I plan to spend the money on suspension and brakes.
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    Rayman,
    The only downside to the low HP/TQ and low weight is the TQ curve will suffer some. I'm fighting the same battle to stay at 2800 and still have enough grunt to keep up with the 350HP/400TQ S197 monsters that Capps and Irwin are driving. Matt White's motor is no slouch either.

    I'll hopefully come in at 295HP and 310TQ for the '07 season. If I'm a little over, ballast here I come!
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    That is what I am thinking. It also will hopefully help with brakes and tire wear. Any idea what the lightest SN95 running weighs?
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