Ford Racing ABS Installation

[mitchntx]

These plates are ABOVE the exhaust, in the rear seat pockets, forward of where the upper control arms used to mount. There is NO way I would ever drag these on the ground. There is at least 10" between the ground and the underside of the plates. This could never be considered anywhere close to a skid plate.

I figured spreading out 80lbs on each side of the car was the "safer" thing than 300# all in one place. Again, four 20# plates per side, each 10"x16"x0.25 thick.


I'm not taking any of this as a personal attack. I understand that folks are concerned with safety (theirs and others).

I see Glenn also made a comment about the location ... not necessarily discouragnig it, but ....

I feel relatively confident in saying had someone other than me or Glenn pointed it out, the response would have been something like "Wow ... never considered that."

[michaelmosty]

I see Glenn also made a comment about the location ... not necessarily discouragnig it, but ....

I feel relatively confident in saying had someone other than me or Glenn pointed it out, the response would have been something like "Wow ... never considered that."

Marshall mentioned this was "considered" before as he talked to the directors about a ballast box that got shot down. Are we missing something or are you? Do you think every comment made to you or Glenn is a personal attack?

[marshall_mosty]

I wouldn't advertise that too loudly. You used that degree to design tie rod ends... :-)

Richard P.

Very true... ZING! That's why I'm in management now...

[marshall_mosty]

I welded a 6x6 piece of 1/8" steel on the inside of the car as backing plate, drilled a hole and used it as a spintech muffler mount.
The weight of the muffler ripped the sheet metal where the outer edges of my backing plate was attached...

No worries mitch, Ford's sheet metal is much stronger (read thinner and lighter) than GM's. That's why you guys have such a hard time getting down to minimum weight.

I'm suprised, as the CCR requires LESS mounting plate for a roll cage which will be supporting the entire weight of the car (plus crash forces) on the same basic patch of sheet metal, but my 80# of lead installed with bolts capable of holding 300# in shear is a HUGE concern. The nuts are nylock, installed with locktite, and as previously mentioned, have torque seal for easy inspection by me (or anyone else who wants to peek).

And as far as shit falling off, that's selective weight shedding for optimum handling mid-race. Kinda like losing a hood and taking out your back glass at Nat's, oh wait, that must have been weak GM sheetmetal giving away again.

I guess it's time for everyone to go "A-Team" and weld armor all over are cars to contain all the stuff that's going to fall off because it's held on with bolts....


That's why I love this group... Endless prospective, even through some really funky glasses...

[mitchntx]

Marshall mentioned this was "considered" before as he talked to the directors about a ballast box that got shot down. Are we missing something or are you? Do you think every comment made to you or Glenn is a personal attack?

My - My the Championship twins are sensitive ...

How was my pointing out my experience, Marshall's engineering inadequacies and components falling off your car and damaging mine a personal attack on me?
I was merely pointing out facts and lesson's learned.


But, I see I'm causing problems. So, I'll go away again. There are pigs to shoot at and miss.

Have a great and safe 2012 season, doods!

[michaelmosty]

Nothing I ever said was personal but apparently you are a little too sensative on this subject. You are the one making it personal.

I would appreciate you not use this forum to make personal attacks at anyone. If you feel WE need to talk, my number is 972-897-1424.

[marshall_mosty]

...my pointing out my experience, Marshall's engineering inadequacies...

Now I do take THAT as a personal attack... I had a part designed which failed during a race with no damage to my car or others as a result. I made a mistake (I'm sure you've never made one, or would be able to admit it), but I wouldn't call my engineering skills inadequate, nor would I ever make any comment publicly to anyone that challenged their schooling or intellegence in general... what you said was just plain uncalled for and inexcusable...

Richard pointed it out in a joking fashion... There is a difference and you obviously don't know the difference.

I'm done. See you guys in a few days. Hopefully my shit doesn't fall apart and kill anyone. I'd hate to think my inadequacies injured anyone...

[cjlmlml]

Thread is now open, I dont know which of the girls closed it, This thread is for Ford ABS, I am sure others are interested in that topic, I know I am. Keep updating Marshall, or start another Ford Update ABS thread.

[K Shaw]

When I pee it smells like coffee.

kyle

[marshall_mosty]

Guess we are back in business.... Okay, back on topic.

The FR ABS was "interesting" this weekend. With StopTech's and GT stock rear calipers using PFC01 and PFC97 front/rear, there is WAY too much rear bias. Under trail braking, the back wanted to rotate VERY badly under release. I had to be very consious of my technique. I'm going to install an in-line bias adjuster BEFORE the HCU on the rear brake supply line. That "should" limit the line pressure and provide less rear "bite".

I'll update again around MSR-C time. I plan on testing at least once since the motor is now hurt and need of TLC... (see the "What Happened?" thread).