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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeP99Z View Post
    Eddie - you racing at Hallett?
    Not this time. Just doing the in-state races this year. I don't know when they're putting me out or what kind of "deal" they're going to try and stick me with when they do so I need to try and save up some money.
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    Well the Hallett format is different from the rest of the season's races and it seems to work real well. So we don't do every weekend the same but some people like consistency. I'm in favor of the 4 races per weekend. Changing it up every once in awhile would be fine but I agree with Glenn that it needs to be advance notice. I wouldn't want to show up for a 20 minute sprint race and then be told its an hour long on saturday morning then have to go add 50 pounds of ballast.
    Also, since we are on the subject, the Enduro's don't really go over well with some when it is on a Sat/Sun and takes away from track time-they also have pretty pathetic attendance from people that have to pay a fee to race (meaning not a nasa official/instructor). Sat warmup should always be there for people to shake down their car after working on it, bedding brakes, tires, etc.
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    Great feedback everyone.

    I'm not asking you to try a new vegetable. Just mix up what we do for races once in a while. For those that are coming up with reasons as to "why we shouldn't" do something different, just take 15 minutes to reflect and think about "why we should". Challenge yourself.

    As far as advance notice, you are all on notice for September. This is 3 months in advance. You will have a 35-40 minute race. I will find a way to make it work and you still get the requested 4 races.


    BTW, on a personal note, it's kinda funny and I love pushing your AI/CMC buttons just to see you how react. When we agreed to take over Texas I was warned that this group would be the most difficult bunch of opinionated, stuck in their ways group that we'd have to deal with. I accepted the challenge. But I am feeling that I am not getting a lot of give and take here. One of the few changes you have accepted is renaming the group from "D" to "Thunder" and I can't believe the amount of crap I got for that . When will you be willing to let me try some stuff that have worked very successfully in other regions?
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    Please keep in mind somethings don't always go together. Longer races, Summer, Texas. Pick two.

    I know we've done three race weekends in the past, but were done during the first part of the year.
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    I'm all for last minute randomness as long as the number of races stays the same. If it’s three races instead of four, that’s fine as long as I know in advance. If I wake up Sunday morning and find out we are running in the opposite direction… fine, I just wish I didn’t drink so much last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nasa-rm View Post

    One of the few changes you have accepted is renaming the group from "D" to "Thunder" and I can't believe the amount of crap I got for that .
    Wow, even I did not bitch about that!

    JJ

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    When will you be willing to let me try some stuff that have worked very successfully in other regions?


    Are those regions larger (in cars) than the Texas region is? Have these ideas made them grow faster or larger than us?


    JJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by nasa-rm View Post
    I've got a plan for TWS in Sept. I'll just do it. Boycott if you want to and not race. Or do it and let me know if it worked or not. If you really don't like it, I'll hang up my hat and retire.
    You talking about this kind of give/take? HAH! Or the email that Glenn sent out letting us know 2 weeks before that the Summer Shootout format was totally different than what we have done in the past?

    I'm just messing with you Dave but do want to offer suggestions. Asking us what we would like and offering up your suggestions would be better than telling us the format has changed at Hallett after we have already registered. Maybe I'm from the if it ain't broke camp, but I look at Hallett and think that is one of the best (and attended) CMC/AI events. Now is it because of the shootout Nats. style format or because of the venue? I like to think its both.
    Now could you create a different format at TWS in Sept. that people have fun and works great? Sure. As long as its stated ahead of time then people can decide if they want to attend and how to prepare the car. I can sure see the 4 race deal being important to a team situation which I think we have 3 teams in CMC which roughly equates to over 20% of the average CMC field this year. Of course there have been times when I skip the 4th race so I can see some appeal to a long Sunday race. At least I'm considering trying a different veg. Dave. But don't bother trying to get me to drink Keystone, Killians, etc-I have to draw the line somewhere.
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    Dave, don't leave, but if you do, put me in charge. I will bring LeMons hilarity to Thunder group. Think bribes for starting grid, wheel of misfortune for contact, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowBolt View Post
    When will you be willing to let me try some stuff that have worked very successfully in other regions?
    Are those regions larger (in cars) than the Texas region is? Have these ideas made them grow faster or larger than us?
    JJ
    Texas is not the largest region overall, probably not even top-5 I guess.

    Per capita we have the most racers, biggest AI / CMC group, etc though I'd bet.

    Just be a little bit more open to experimentation, you just might like it and if you don't at least you'll appreciate the status quo that much more. You buncha negative Nancies you
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