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    Quote Originally Posted by Pranav View Post
    Dave, don't leave, but if you do, put me in charge. I will bring LeMons hilarity to Thunder group. Think bribes for starting grid, wheel of misfortune for contact, etc...
    You do that and car goes up for sale that very moment. I hate LeMons........

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    Quote Originally Posted by nasa-rm View Post
    Texas AI/CMC should consider evaluating "this is how we've always done it" and start trying something different once in a while.
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    There's nothing wrong with doing it the same every time, but there's a sanctioning body out there that sticks to what they have done the same since the 50's and it's really turning off their competitors. Easy to manage, but not creative. Businesses that don't stay innovative are usually destined to fail.
    Dave since I know the spirit of your intent is to provide a superior service, I'd support you on whatever you think will work - you have a great heart and have a good feel for the business. Just don't change because nothing has changed- it's a crap shoot. Think New Coke (or whatever change-is-improvement BS idea you want to substitute). The SCCA issues have been a long time coming and built up over year and years of not listening to anyone but the loudest voices.
    If your energy is focused on innovating towards improving the quality of time on track and at event, then many will support you even if it results in a reduction of time on track.
    But I challenge you to focus on innovating more like Disneyland than NASCAR. Disneyland's innovations don't eliminate problems as much as they create opportunities (both for the business and the consumer). Switch back lines did not eliminate long waits, they make the wait less annoying and reduced congestion. No-queue-queues give consumers options and visual eye candy while they wait for the next attraction or go from store to store. The whole operation of Disneyland is geared to generate fanatic customer loyalty despite flaws. NASCAR's changes are poorly thought out, driven by "loudest voices" and almost always wind up highlighting the problems (COT meet 6th gen, penalties meet "have at it boys", which channel is NASCAR on? WHat month is it...TNT=June, Fox = March? I give up...check Speed for highlights). I don't go to NASCAR races anymore and only watch the start and end of races....if I watch at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbrewmr2 View Post
    ....Just be a little bit more open to experimentation, you just might like it...
    Wait, now I know what's going on here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by edrock96GT View Post
    Wait, now I know what's going on here...
    If it's hope and change I'm out.


    JJ

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    One more year of reading this forum and I will be able to sit for the psychology boards. The only thing that is constant is change. Despite knowing that, I hate change. I like the TP to hang over the front of the roll, I hate when someone rearranges the furniture, etc. I don't care what we do as long as I get advanced notice. I also hate those lemons clowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowBolt View Post
    If it's hope and change I'm out.


    JJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by edrock96GT View Post
    Wait, now I know what's going on here...
    It's ok Eddie, and even allowed in the military these days, and the Boy Scouts.
    Rob Liebbe - Texas Region
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    Thunder is a great name.
    We could have been called Nancies or Blitz, or something like that.
    I'm good with change, as long as it doesn't begin to feel like I'm playing putt-putt on a course with the windmill and clown face. Just want it to be good clean racing, so we can say after the race, "Wahoo, did you see when you were....." Instead of saying before the race, "Cool, now watch this, you ain't seen nothing"

    A few leadershp qualities:
    Be honest, build trust; Be aware of history, change the future; Be a leader, follow good examples; Be humble, demand the best; Be a team player, challenge the team; Be professional, break paradigms; Be commited, have fun; Be happy, never satisfied.
    Dave and the NASA TX Region, you all exhibit all of these, and I truly thank you.
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    With Randy's words of advice, let me explain some of my reasoning's to do this. I can explain in more details over beer at Hallett.

    1. I want to build NASA TX to be "the place" that people want to go for auto-sports. The NASA calendar should be the first place they look when setting their schedule for the year. If this means do the same thing every time and be consistent, we can do that. Or trying new things to see what breaks and what works best, then yes.

    2. I want our racers to be top notch quality and be able to go anywhere and stand on the podium. Under any conditions and length of race. 25 hours in a constant downpour, 15 minute sprint, 40 minute race in the heat. While building muscle memory is a great thing to do, if you only exercise the same way you are conditioned to only work one way.



    Two quick notes:

    Someone asked if we are trying to do things that are done by a successful larger region. Yes, in fact Texas is a small region and minuscule in comparison to what it could be for the population of Texas. This region *should* easily have 250-300 cars per event and history to 2010 was just about 100 cars per event. That's why we were brought here, to make things grow. We hit our target of 200 cars in the first couple of seasons several times. Now it's time to raise that bar and hit 250. We are also trying things done well by smaller regions than Texas. Things we have done in RM, Central, Florida, Arizona, etc. NASA's goal is to keep things fresh and keep trying to improve - this is ONE thing that hasn't changed over the past 20 years. Help us reach those goals.

    If someone on a team gets butt hurt because we only have 3 races in a weekend, then we can allow them to run an extra race in another race group (PTB or SM8) to make up for their loss of a session. I am happy to keep working on solutions to perceived problems. You guys set them up, I'll keep knocking them back until I'm under the table.
    Dave Balingit
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    Quote Originally Posted by nasa-rm View Post
    If someone on a team gets butt hurt because we only have 3 races in a weekend, then we can allow them to run an extra race in another race group (PTB or SM to make up for their loss of a session. I am happy to keep working on solutions to perceived problems. You guys set them up, I'll keep knocking them back until I'm under the table.
    I think it could take more than beer with this group. I could be wrong (again) but my sense is the group is up for different things.

    For example, would the collective "we" be up for a 60 minute race with a mandatory 5 minute stop at the half for the team guys to change drivers? I don't know, but why not; could even score the halves differently.

    And put me in the camp of hot, cold, wet, or dry - if it's a race weekend the weather is the same for everybody thought I know some/most folks don't like the summer heat.
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