Agreed that this is a complete and total mess. No need to elaborate any more.
Thanks NASA...
Agreed that this is a complete and total mess. No need to elaborate any more.
Thanks NASA...
-Michael Mosty
CMC #11 Mosty Brothers' Racing
Director - TX Region
Quoted from Phil:
there will be 16", not the size that you may want, but later in 2014 there will 225/50R16 and 245/45R16 RR's.
I don't see what you guys are pissed about with the RA1 still needed as a rain tire... Keep the ones you have and if they are shaved, they are intermediates. If they are full tread...they are full rains. Yeah, you are buying more wheels and have to carry them but that's cheap.
I do think they are going to have a supply problem for the 17's as there are TONS of people running 17's in CMC, AI and Factory 5 Roadsters. yeah, they USED to run 255's but if they go to RR's, there isn't going to be a 255 RR.....or is there? Phil?
As Jerry pointed out, the 4th gens are already cracking K-members with RA1's. We are going to have to trash the one in Misty's car as it's cracking just like Bryan's did....and I am about to put 315's on it!
One thing I learned over the years about NASA is they have NO problem finding ways to spend YOUR money and make THEM look cool....AND bitching about it does nothing so bite the bullet and move forward.
Aren't the AI rules supposed to be out already according to the new commitment? LOL!
<---runs and grabs the flame suit!
Ah, fugg it.
Originally Posted by AI#97
I have never screwed with rains. Unless there is standing water a slick tire will have more grip. At least that is what I have been told. I have four slick tires on the trailer tire rack and two at 1/16" and two with maybe 1/32" on the car. I have to figure out what to purchase to get through two races.
JJ
I know it's aggravating that NASA made the choice last minute but in all honesty the RR is a 100 times better. And it's not as sticky as everyone thinks it is. Yah it's faster but a lot of that has to do with it being virtually a REAL race tire that has only two lines going down it instead of 4 like the RA1. It is a little softer but not much and the fact that the sidewalls are rounded off and smooth also help with cornering grip. It's not going to tear apart cars like everyone thinks it will unless your car is already falling apart.
Jerry, then you haven't driven enough in the rain...especially on a tire like the RR and if you show up with stickers and your first session is wet...you will BEG for those RA1's. Traction is less than ZERO and fast hands and a GOOD rain line are key.
Ah, fugg it.
So we all can agree! CHANGE sucks!
But we all need to realize that TOYO and NASA are a business first! I do not like the very short notice either, it is bad business. But it is what is is! Don't let their business ruin the years of fun that NASA has enjoyed.
That being said......We can not let this change take away from the heart of what we all spend hours upon hours laying under our cars getting them ready to go to the races. This is about having FUN and competing and doing our best at a sport we love!
If you look at it as a rookie ( like some of us are) I have a real hard time buying a set of expensive tires then shaving off over half of them!?!? WTH, But that is what I was told to do and what I have done. The idea of going to a tire that we don't have to waste 3/4 of their life on the floor at the tire shop is very appealing. Not to mention makes more sense financially. After the initial cost of having to change wheels, the savings on the extra life of the tires will be better in the long run. Think big picture here...don't go down the path of the dark side. ;-)
I know there are some running 16" wheels. You all are looking at a larger cost than some because of changing wheels. But as the group that I have become very fond of, we can pull together and help them find an alternative. (I am not sure if they are going to allow 225/50R16 or 245/45R16 in CMC (Glenn help on this))
All tire sizes are maximums. Smaller is ok.
So how do we feel about pushing back the introduction here in Texas to the 4th event?
Glenn,
Personally I was set on buying some new tires to kick off the season but can limp through until the second event, although I might have to revert to 16s to get there. I'd like the option to run RR after event 2 but will be happy with general consensus.
There is no good answer for everyone. I have just enough RA-1 left to finish Houston then I will have nothing for Cresson. We will have some guys that have more tires than they need for two or four events and some that don't have any. There is no perfect for everyone way to go here.
JJ
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