RR's for 2014......

[Fbody383]

All tire sizes are maximums. Smaller is ok.

So how do we feel about pushing back the introduction here in Texas to the 4th event?

Like Sean said, I'm coming to race with what I have. I'll start the search for a 17" wheel and buy tires when I find them. I'll scrimp/share/flip/rotate 16s and manage the stock for the events I want to run.

"Slow" bothers me less than having to spend money arbitrarily.

May just have to take the Toyo logo out of the year end video.

[kbrewmr2]

My rep at tire rack said they will for sure be here next month before January. But you can't use Toyo bucks with them.

why are you buying track tires from Tire Rack?

[Suck fumes]

I always get my RA1's from Phil cause his shave is the best and I plan on using my last Toyo bucks on the final RA1 set I need for the first two events.

I buy all the SI RR tires from tire rack cause I have a dealer wholesale account with them through my business and its a LOT cheaper for me to go through them for RR's over anyone else.

My dad will mostly be driving CMC next year anyway so I'm sure if he accumulates Toyo bucks we will still use them at Phil's place.

[Rsmith350]

I always get my RA1's from Phil cause his shave is the best and I plan on using my last Toyo bucks on the final RA1 set I need for the first two events.

I buy all the SI (and future CMC) RR tires from tire rack cause I have a dealer wholesale account with them through my business and its a LOT cheaper for me to go through them for RR's over anyone else.

Same here, corporate account is nice

[nasa-rm]

I'll take cheap 275/17 RA1s if anyone wants to dump them.

The loss of the 16" RA1 is no surprise, it's been coming for several years and Toyo was very verbal about they would stop supporting the 255/16" as soon as they announced the RR. And yes, CMC is the only class anywhere that uses 16". I tried to buy tires at Nationals and could not get 16" from Toyo, Hoosier or Goodyear. There was not ONE SINGLE 16" RA1 on the supply truck from Toyo and the other two said they don't support that size and brought nothing in 16". It was easier to buy a set of 17" wheels, so I did.

Texas folks, if you were willing to pushout the RR allowance date to coincide the change with the 2nd race weekend of Rocky Mountain, that would be cool. With the amount of RM folks who go down to Texas to play in CMC it would be nice if they could have the same rules apply regardless of region.

Now... don't forget that Texas is an odd duck and is completely out of the norm. Most all of the other AI/CMC regions have 4 to 5 month lead times before their season starts!!!!! ALMOST SIX GD MONTHS BEFORE ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAS AN EVENT (wahhhhh). Sorry Texans, while you are very important just clearly based on the AI/CMC (and SM) numbers, one region can't lead the rules as everyone needs to be taken into account.

And yes, if you can't find RRs before your bucks run out due to any supply issues (after the switch over date), just as they have in the past, Toyo has stepped up and extended to make sure they don't screw anyone.


As far as making this switch in the "off the season" instead of the "middle of the season", NOW can I switch the Texas season to run Sept through June?


BTW, there is some sarcasm in my words above. Remember, my self appointed job in life is to push y'all's buttons here on this forum. I'm just here to have fun, grow the region and attempt to smooth out the bumps such as this. That is the downside of having the regional director racing in your class!

Ok, I am out of here. Got to go sell my car or find adjustable rear control arms.....

[nasa-rm]

One more thought.... those with TOO many 17" (or 16") RA1s that want to switch to the RR atfter race 2, why don't you help out those that don't have enough RA1's to make it to the switch point?

Let's be constructive and work through the switchover and insure we have record numbers of CMC cars on track.

[Suck fumes]

Just found out tire rack DOES accept Toyo bucks per Mac Mcnabb. So if you can't find RR's anywhere else you can use them there. Just have to call to order and scan/email the certificates.

[GlennCMC70]

One more thought.... those with TOO many 17" (or 16") RA1s that want to switch to the RR at race 2, why don't you help out those that don't have enough RA1's to make it to the switch point?

Let's be constructive and work through the switchover and insure we have record numbers of CMC cars on track.

The switchover is not at race 2, it is after race 2.

[michaelmosty]

Why doesn't NASA determine a "date" that the RR will become the new spec tire? Just as an example, June 1, 2014. That will give every single region the exact same amount of time.

[GlennCMC70]

They are alowing 2 events for everyone so they will have a chance to use up (mostly) 1 set of new tires.
They never factor that most all of us have tires in various stages of use. I have my best set to race on. I have another set for practice. I have a 3rd set for DE's and fun rides. I even have a set of full tread rains (16").
I'll be willing to sell the 16" ones.