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    Aaron ran there with SCCA a year or so ago, he could offer some perspective here. I'm also curious what his terminal velocity was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercharged111 View Post
    Aaron ran there with SCCA a year or so ago, he could offer some perspective here. I'm also curious what his terminal velocity was.
    I'm expecting to ring everything out of the car in 5th on the back straight... might even sit on the 6,300 RPM limiter (hopefully not for long)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeP99Z View Post
    JJ -

    Another option may be to have one driver run in CMC and the other in ST4 (see new ST rules). I think it's unlikely that we will have 4 races at COTA. It may be 3. The schedule is not even close to being discussed at the moment. There are other logistics being worked out including grid area, in/out laps etc. Until we have a better idea of how/where certain things sort out we can't even take a stab at the schedule. Maximizing race time is the goal.

    Regarding the mixed group comments - yes, Thunder will have other cars on the track with AI/CMC, and they will split starts. SU or PT cars are the most likely. It will depend on actual entries per class, and we will need to balance things out. Plan on 50-60 cars on track per race group. They may have 75 SM cars alone in Cyclone.

    This event is going to be huge, and pricey. I believe this is the most expensive track to rent in the country.
    Quick question Mike. If we are going to run with other groups why would there not be time for four half hour (at least) races? If you have time for two races one day.......or are you saying one two races per weekend?
    With the expected cost to run this track I can't see paying for running CMC and ST4.
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    I'm trying to keep 4 races. I just can't guarantee that at the moment. With the projected number of cars, TT may be split and HPDE 3/4 may get split. So, I lose 2 hrs and 40 minutes in the schedule (essentially). We may have 3 race groups, or 4 race groups. If 4, then there goes another 1 hr and 20 minutes. There's only so much time in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeP99Z View Post
    I'm trying to keep 4 races. I just can't guarantee that at the moment. With the projected number of cars, TT may be split and HPDE 3/4 may get split. So, I lose 2 hrs and 40 minutes in the schedule (essentially). We may have 3 race groups, or 4 race groups. If 4, then there goes another 1 hr and 20 minutes. There's only so much time in the day.
    I need help Mike. I don't understand unless you are saying extra run groups of HPDE and TT will take away racers track time. If we combine race groups how would we have less time for the races than normal? Or will HPDE and TT having huge numbers be the only way we can run COTA due to the cost?

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    Not getting into details for information that is unknown - I'd be flat out guessing at this point. Basically, right now on each day for a normal event each group has 75-80 minutes of track time per day. That won't change, just how it's allocated may change. We're not planning on "taking away" time, but certain restrictions and parameters may alter this. We are still collecting information, working on logistics, and will be evaluating multiple scenarios.

    There are no "combined" race groups, please dismiss that theory. There are resorting of classes within race groups to balance on-track car count. There will still be Thunder, Cyclone, and Blitz. We don't know if there will be a Lightning yet. I can't have 1 group with 30 cars and another sold out with 60 or 70, and people on a waiting list. AI/CMC will not be alone.

    I don't mean to be rude, but I'm not speculating any further on COTA right now. It won't be a "normal" event, so plan on something different which isn't going to make every individual happy, but keeps the entire event population satisfied.
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    Thanks Mike. We certainly trust you to be fair whatever you guys come up with.



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    just give us the heads up of exact time and day when reg will open. SCCA event sold out with 650 competitors and a waiting list within 15 min after reg opened. And no I'm not kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suck fumes View Post
    just give us the heads up of exact time and day when reg will open. SCCA event sold out with 650 competitors and a waiting list within 15 min after reg opened. And no I'm not kidding.

    I agree with Aaron. Surely the Texas region should get first dibs. Is NASA nation wide even close to the number of members that the SCCA has? Of course I guess we could have a ton of SCCA guys signing up with NASA just for this event.
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    scca is running cota in March too. In case you want practice.
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