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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchntx View Post
    Jerry, I really do think I understand ... you want to know what the change would be with a torque arm in a Mustang. Slower? Faster? the same?
    You are right ... we don't know. But a maxim MS TA kit is hardly a like for like comparison to a factory GM unit. Therefore, it's an unaswereable question.

    And the original point was about what can be done to stop the self destruction of the race car.
    In the GM world, the similar self-destruction is along the trans mount. Its ripping all the spot welds out.
    Self-destruction is part of the cost of going racing, from where I sit. You guys suffer from it and so do I.
    Only solution is to go back and repair it.

    And then the tangent about parity found its way into this convo. And it all centers on lap times.
    The question hidden in all of this is parity discussion is with whom?
    Parity with your car and Proctor's?
    Mine and Michael's?
    Wade's and Allford's?

    The data above shows a WIDE variance in the same platform. I could post similar numbers on the Camaro side.
    Rules relaxation in the name of parity HAS to remove the driver from the equation. Why? That's the biggest variable.

    So that leads us full circle again to a question that just isn't answerable.

    Is it fair to me as a mid-pack slacker for a potential advantage in lap times to Michael?
    Is it fair to give you an advantage in order to keep up with Proctor?
    What would that do to Michael's lap times?
    The problem is, no one knows if there is an advantage or not.

    You would be just as pissed off if the TA kit was allowed today, an advantage seen and the kit deemed illegal.
    Remember how pissed folks were who had a stack of 888s?

    Bottom line ... If a racer wants to 1) race, 2) be competitive and 3) not tear anything up.
    Pick two and be call it good.
    "So that leads us full circle again to a question that just isn't answerable."

    I love ya Mitch but I do not agree with this part. It think it's possible to find out. I understand (now) about the differences in t/a's on the two platforms. I think we would know by now if Glenn had driven Boudy's car or if Al had traded for it. I don't blame Glenn for not doing it since he had nothing to gain and everything to lose. If at the end of the year he was not running up front or at least close to his old lap times..........or if he was as fast or faster than in previous years we would have learned a bunch. My real guess is the Mustang would be no faster adding a torque arm and I would still be a midpack slacker! Sorry I kept this one going so long. At least there was something to read on here for a few days.

    I finished with this thread now since we will not figure it out here. IMHO the S197 is going to screw up CMC way past this issue. I thought we kept it civil. I'm going to miss you at the track Mitch!

    When can we go racing?

    JJ
    Last edited by ShadowBolt; 07-24-2012 at 01:01 PM.

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